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tpe wrote:I am in no way a mechanical engineer, but I cannot help myself ask what the hell is going on.
Gene says that Wind Tunnel is OK.
PF says that they lack downforce.
drivers say that they have a lot of work to do...
First of all, if they lack downforce either the simulator/wind tunnel gave them other numbers, or the engineering set them very low. In any case, they do the same error as of 2009...
Second, they are not sandbagging. No way... They have huge problem and they don't know what is going on...
The problems with the exhaust are not due to problems in the wind tunnel. You cannot simulate exhaust in the tunnel. The problem is with CFD and area in which the team is lacking and has openly acknowledged it's behind the others. They're working on it.
"not the car!" -- Alonso's statement in the current autosport.com makes it clear what a "leader" he is. And I mean that positively. He brings to the team the sort of positive "lead from the front" attitude that Schu did a few years ago. He's much more than just a fast driver.
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill
Alonso says that his confidence that Ferrari can sort itself out is based on the fact that it knows exactly where its car is under-performing.
"We definitely still need to improve a lot, working on our understanding of the F2012, adapting my driving style to a new car which, with the loss of aerodynamic downforce at the rear and the new Pirelli tyres, is a bit harder to drive," he said.
"We know in which direction we need to go in terms of car development and that's an important step. Sure, we will have to grit our teeth for the first few races, but first of all, we have to see exactly where we are in terms of being competitive and then give our all to bring home as many points as possible in this early stage of the championship.
Hope the car will be sorted out quickly and difficult handling characteristics will be gone.
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Formula One is a game.............. but not any ordinary game for me
So now they started to say something different. It was quite a big turn from his early comments that Ferrari is not going to be competitive enough in OZ.......... hope he knows what he is saying.......... [-o<
Formula One is a game.............. but not any ordinary game for me
Gerhard Berger wrote:Well i hate it to say it, but it looks like we are back to the pre Todt era. What the hell have Fry, Tombazis et al been doing since August?
May be learning the basics of car designing again!!
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it might not be such a bad idea for the team to completely stop developing the F2012. Before you call this a knee jerk reaction, consider the following:
Since 1990, only on four occasions has a driver gone on to win the Championship when trailing a rival from another team after the first three races (Schumacher in 1995 and 2003; Häkkinen in 1999; Hamilton in 2008). That number rises to a whopping five when you include drivers who trailed and then defeated their teammate to win the Championship (Prost defeated Senna in 1993). In all other cases, the driver who topped the standings after three races never looked back.
Ferrari could be as much as two seconds off the pace and behind as many as seven other teams. Barring a miracle, it's pretty much impossible to make up that much ground when you realize that the other teams will not be standing still.
This car is fundamentally flawed, and it cannot be saved. Ferrari clearly still have substantial correlation issues, because they were so convinced they had a winning design that they didn't even bother to plan/design/build a plan-B.
I think the team would be much better off in the long run if they put all of their efforts into figuring out just exactly what's wrong with their design infrastructure. Once devoted to pursuing that end, this season's races could and should be used as tests to investigate their design shortcomings and to trial solutions.
I nearly forgot this one: Stefano Domenicali needs to be fired immediately. His leadership doesn't work at all. The results during his tenure as team principal speak for themselves.
bhallg2k wrote:I think the team would be much better off in the long run if they put all of their efforts into figuring out just exactly what's wrong with their design infrastructure. Once devoted to pursuing that end, this season's races could and should be used as tests to investigate their design shortcomings and to trial solutions.
