Photo comparion between the Ferrari F10 & F60

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Photo comparion between the Ferrari F10 & F60

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Most striking differences – similarities between the F10 and F60
1.Livery change . The black colored parts in F60 , like bargeboards turned into white for F10 , alongside with the formerly red coloured front and rear wings .
2.Nose cone shape
3.The nose camera winglets are now attached on the nose pillars , instead of the nose sides
4.The nose pillars are now vertical instead of inclined forward
5.Front wing
6.Airbox inlet shape and size
7.The cockpit side protection is extended higher towards the rear . Moreover a small triangular fin is attached on either side of the cockpit just in front of the side impact crash structure .
8.Sidepods shape
9.The KERS cooling hole is gone for F10 , alongside with its outlet .
10.Floor under nose
11.Sidepod panels
12.Engine cover
13.Exhausts
14.Hot air exits
15.Rear wing
16.Diffuser
17.No wheel rim shields for 2010
18.Narrower front tyres due to new regulations

It seems to me that the F10 is not a new car but rather a heavily modified F60 with a new nose , rear end , DD Diffuser and a longer wheelbase probably due to the larger fuel cell .


So it is now time to get into the details

FRONT WING
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The launch spec F10 was equipped with a front wing directly copied from the last races of the 2009 season , besides secrets should be kept hided . Nevertheless the team had a modified front wing during the three days test at Valencia .



REAR WING
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Not only the front wing was inherited by the F60 but the rear wing also.Probably the F10 would have new or modified wings at Australia.



NOSE CONE
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The nose cone of the F10 is higher , slimmer at its tip , more boxy and features a U-shaped upper raised section pioneered by Red Bull last year and already tested by the F60 . The nose pillars are vertical and the camera winglets are now attached on them instead of the nose sides .



FLOOR UNDER THE NOSE
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Ferrari seems to have abandoned the sculpted floor concept under the nose because the new F10 features a simpler floor with vertical raised extremities , similar to the one featured by Mc Laren MP4/24 and Red Bull RB5 in 2009 .



AIRBOX
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The F10 chassis features a more roundy airbox with a larger inlet because it is now mounted higher from the driver’s helmet to suffer less negative air turbulence from it . In order to maintain its opening large enough its width is increased while its overall opening height was decreased .

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SIDEPODS
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The sidepod ‘s bottoms still remain very sculpted (in order to decrease drag and improve the airflow towards the rear of the car ) but they look very alike to the modified F60’s one’s , firstly presented at Spanish 2009 GP . That seems quite logical having in mind the new larger tank fitted inside the sidepods , but the whole design looks conservative compared to other 2010 cars and we should not forget the extra space gained by the KERS units removal from the car .
The most striking differences though are the exhausts placement closer to the centre of the car , the sidepod’s rear end and the absence of the KERS cooling hole .


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SIDEPOD INLETS
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The overall sidepod inlets size was decreased a little and the rear view mirrors remain mounted away from the cockpit zone . From this view angle we can observe the raised upper outer section of the sidepods . This sidepod hump creates a minor air channel on the top of the sidepods between the hump and the cockpit protection side which guides the air flow towards the rear wing more effectively . Similar humps were presented by Williams FW31 during winter pre 2009 season testing and going even back in the past by Benetton B194 in 1994 and Ferrari F399 in 1999 .
How conservative is the Ferrari team’s sidepod design approach is also reflected by those humps , as instead of lowering the inner upper parts to create the air channel the team just preferred to simply raise the outer upper part giving the wrong impression that the car is actually increased in internal volume .




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PS = I want to say thanks to member Downforce for his assistance
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bar555 & downforce - Thanks for the great work! =D>

See pics below. The top surface of that F60 side pod was so sculptured at launch last year, complete with retro exhausts. Nearly all teams (inc Ferrari) moved to a much flatter top. Possibly the F60 profile was too complicated, and simple is best? Not sure what the lesson is for the highly sculptured MP4-25?

Also, see how far forward the exhaust is on the F10.
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=D> it's been a long wait Michalis, but truly worth it.
looking fwd to your next posts
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Re: Photo comparion between the Ferrari F10 & F60

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well done
good post ill have to say i like the f60 better =D>
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The nose hight is a very distinct feature on all the new cars. All now seem to be higher and have the Red Bull style concavity. I wonder it that has something to do with the increased wheelbase.
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NaZzO wrote:=D> it's been a long wait Michalis, but truly worth it.
looking fwd to your next posts

Thanks ,
it was really a hard work to combine and find the perfect images but the good news is that a second part of the comparison photo set is on the way ...
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Thanks. I was missing this. :)

I don't think you should bother with 2009 lounch pictures. I might be wrong but I think most wonder what was changed since the late 2009 and what remained the same.

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bar555 wrote:PS = I want to say thanks to member Downforce for his assistance
You are welcome. This is some great work. As usual... :wink:

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Re: Photo comparion between the Ferrari F10 & F60

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These threads are so awesome, great stuff. Admittedly most of it I already knew, but the little things like the camera mounts at the front is what makes these threads for me.
U-shaped upper raised section
Thank you, someone else who seemingly doesn't like to call it a V nose. This is more accurate IMO, when people initially started talking about V-noses I was like 'what the hell are you clowns talking bout' :|

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Pandamasque wrote:Thanks. I was missing this. :)

I don't think you should bother with 2009 lounch pictures. I might be wrong but I think most wonder what was changed since the late 2009 and what remained the same.
Bother ? Take another look in the pictures above and you would find also some F60 images from the last races of the 2009 season compared with the brand new F10 . Some parts remaine unchanged from the start of the season ( usually the nose cone , mirrors , airbox ) while some others are revised ( wings , diffuser ) , so 2009 launch pictures are still usefull .
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the F10 has thicker pillars holding up the front wing. Could this have a similar effect to Renaults under nose hump where it increases the pressure under the nose?

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Michiba wrote:the F10 has thicker pillars holding up the front wing. Could this have a similar effect to Renaults under nose hump where it increases the pressure under the nose?
Why would you want to increase pressure under the nose?
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Michiba wrote:the F10 has thicker pillars holding up the front wing. Could this have a similar effect to Renaults under nose hump where it increases the pressure under the nose?
I assume the thicker pillars provide the needed internal space to permit a camera winglet attachment on them .
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Thanks for doing this, BAR. I'm looking forward to comparisons on the rest of the cars. It does make me a little sad to look back at the cars from last year. Those were great looking cars, and this year's look a bit portly by comparison.

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Interesting stuff. I didn't really realise they were similar as much as that. The biggest changes are obviously the diffuser and getting air to it, the 'Red Bull style' nose, simplifying the aerodynamics forward of the diffuser in favour of it, accommodating the longer body and streamlining the packaging around the fuel tank, engine and gearbox.

However, it looks as if they had more of a sound 2009 car they could build on than one might have thought. Most interesting.