2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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_cerber1 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:24
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:03
Drivers and 3 key personnel members are outside of budget cap, and there's also profitability to look at. Sponsorships always make a lot of sense.
Zak avoids big and title sponsors because... if they leave, it is difficult for the team to make up for financial losses and find an equivalent replacement for them.
Agreed, short time wise, it's easier to land a title sponsor, but if they leave you are in risk. From the other hand, it takes a lot of time and effort to get a lot of smaller sponsors, but if few decide to leave you can replace them with other few and keep your team afloat.
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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 01:03
Macklaren wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 22:13
Would be HUGE if we can land a RB or Ferrari like title sponsor, but where is the space on the car?

The orange logo fits the livery though unlike Ferrari-HP

https://twitter.com/decalspotters/statu ... gcD4w&s=19
Interesting. It comes after VISA. Next American Express.
Once they see one then we’ll see them all:wink:
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I haven’t listen to the podcast myself but to all of the Piastri nay sayers this might be something you’d like to bang your drum with:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... n-russell/
Just a fan's point of view

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bauc wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:39
_cerber1 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:24
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:03
Drivers and 3 key personnel members are outside of budget cap, and there's also profitability to look at. Sponsorships always make a lot of sense.
Zak avoids big and title sponsors because... if they leave, it is difficult for the team to make up for financial losses and find an equivalent replacement for them.
Agreed, short time wise, it's easier to land a title sponsor, but if they leave you are in risk. From the other hand, it takes a lot of time and effort to get a lot of smaller sponsors, but if few decide to leave you can replace them with other few and keep your team afloat.
Yeah, RBR, Ferrari, Mercedes and AMR are all on the wrong path with their title sponsors. :roll:

Once the chance for a great title sponsor for McLaren appears, they will take it, as every team would.

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CjC wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 13:22
I haven’t listen to the podcast myself but to all of the Piastri nay sayers this might be something you’d like to bang your drum with:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... n-russell/
That podcast reads and listens like “top 5 best click bait titles this month”.

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-wkst- wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 14:30
bauc wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:39
_cerber1 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 10:24


Zak avoids big and title sponsors because... if they leave, it is difficult for the team to make up for financial losses and find an equivalent replacement for them.
Agreed, short time wise, it's easier to land a title sponsor, but if they leave you are in risk. From the other hand, it takes a lot of time and effort to get a lot of smaller sponsors, but if few decide to leave you can replace them with other few and keep your team afloat.
Yeah, RBR, Ferrari, Mercedes and AMR are all on the wrong path with their title sponsors. :roll:

Once the chance for a great title sponsor for McLaren appears, they will take it, as every team would.
LOL, worst comeback in this forums history :mrgreen:

RBR, Ferrari & Mercedes structure and finance model is so different to Mclaren that for them is not essential to have this title sponsor but a bonus, where for Mclaren, team that struggles financially for many years is essential to have a lot of sponsors to make sure they can stay afloat, wehre if they have one big sponsor and if that sponsor decides to leave the team or the sport could kill them.
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Having several smaller sponsors instead of one big sponsor to reduce the impact of losing them is only relevant when you are struggling financially. All teams are now profitable, McLaren Group is fully controlled by Bahrain fund and finance is stable for years now. Title sponsorship is a huge deal for any team and no one will refuse it if it's available and terms are right. It gives stability, predictability and most importantly - success breads success. Ie it will also attract new smaller sponsors/partners.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Tobi Gruner (from AMuS who is HIGHLY credible) saying Newey is out of RBR. Some smoke that he's headed to Mclaren? anyone have more info? Would make Sanchez's departure make more sense?

*where's PhilipM when you need him!*

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Macklaren wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 16:11
Tobi Gruner (from AMuS who is HIGHLY credible) saying Newey is out of RBR. Some smoke that he's headed to Mclaren? anyone have more info? Would make Sanchez's departure make more sense?

*where's PhilipM when you need him!*
They say it's Ferrari and maybe mercedes, nothing about mclaren

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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 15:03
Having several smaller sponsors instead of one big sponsor to reduce the impact of losing them is only relevant when you are struggling financially. All teams are now profitable, McLaren Group is fully controlled by Bahrain fund and finance is stable for years now. Title sponsorship is a huge deal for any team and no one will refuse it if it's available and terms are right. It gives stability, predictability and most importantly - success breads success. Ie it will also attract new smaller sponsors/partners.
The Bahrain fund still fills the gap towards Mclaren, its is not yet in the ''green'' but it is in much better shape than what it was lets say in the COVID years
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Venturiation wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 16:28
Macklaren wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 16:11
Tobi Gruner (from AMuS who is HIGHLY credible) saying Newey is out of RBR. Some smoke that he's headed to Mclaren? anyone have more info? Would make Sanchez's departure make more sense?

*where's PhilipM when you need him!*
They say it's Ferrari and maybe mercedes, nothing about mclaren
Damon Hill thinks Mclaren. Let's see if he is the "2024 Mika" in terms of prescient forecasting

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He isn't going to Mclaren...obviously....but if he was...an overseeing eye of all cars under the Mclaren racing family. Indycar, FE and all that jazz. May be a tempter..

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I think the Newey to McLaren was just Damon Hill's opinion. Strong recent interest from AM and obviously historical interest from Ferrari. I read no that long ago that Meecedes was highly unlikely. But if Max goes there, who knows? But for what it's worth, he and Zak seem to have a cordial relationship and maybe shared interests?
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I really doubt Newey is heading to McLaren. He is either going to Ferrari or Aston Martin.

My bet says Ferrari because he mentioned a career regret has been not working with Lewis/Fernando as drivers and Ferrari as team.

If he goes to Ferrari, it scratches 2 of his regrets in one go. And come on, it's Ferrari. Surely for the prestige alone he would want to design a Ferrari WCC.

He already had a go at McLaren. Came really close in 2005 but a race winner nonetheless. Internal politics back then drew him away.

Either way, he has already had a touch of McLaren.

Ferrari seems to be the only missing "tick" of an outstanding career.

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Emag wrote:
25 Apr 2024, 17:33
I really doubt Newey is heading to McLaren. He is either going to Ferrari or Aston Martin.

My bet says Ferrari because he mentioned a career regret has been not working with Lewis/Fernando as drivers and Ferrari as team.

If he goes to Ferrari, it scratches 2 of his regrets in one go. And come on, it's Ferrari. Surely for the prestige alone he would want to design a Ferrari WCC.

He already had a go at McLaren. Came really close in 2005 but a race winner nonetheless. Internal politics back then drew him away.

Either way, he has already had a touch of McLaren.

Ferrari seems to be the only missing "tick" of an outstanding career.
Now being reported by Andrew Benson, states that there's strong interest from Ferrari and AM, but other teams would become keen with this news. If there's a chance, I think Zak should explore.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cmm3v9ny78eo
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Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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