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trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 04:35
I know in the beginning of 2022 McLaren used a front pullrod and rear pushrod suspension, with Red Bull being the only other team with the same setup. It's clear the front pullrod was carried over for 2023 but can't remember for certain if the rear pushrod was carried over as well.

Can anyone confirm if the rear being pushrod is the same for 2023?

As a side question have any of the other teams also adopted front pull/rear pushrod suspension?

Edit: looking at this drawing by GP it seems to still be a pushrod
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... men-1.webp
It was us and Red Bull that adopted this, I'm not aware of anyone else but I'm not sure.

Edit:
It was just Mclaren and Red Bull as of the Australian GP this year, so I expect nothing has changed:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... x1Dhz.html
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Alfa Romeo uses pushrods on the rear suspension.

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mwillems wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 10:09
trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 04:35
I know in the beginning of 2022 McLaren used a front pullrod and rear pushrod suspension, with Red Bull being the only other team with the same setup. It's clear the front pullrod was carried over for 2023 but can't remember for certain if the rear pushrod was carried over as well.

Can anyone confirm if the rear being pushrod is the same for 2023?

As a side question have any of the other teams also adopted front pull/rear pushrod suspension?

Edit: looking at this drawing by GP it seems to still be a pushrod
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... men-1.webp
It was us and Red Bull that adopted this, I'm not aware of anyone else but I'm not sure.

Edit:
It was just Mclaren and Red Bull as of the Australian GP this year, so I expect nothing has changed:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... x1Dhz.html
I saw that article before but thinking back I do remember seeing pictures of McLaren showing a pushrod rear both in 2022 and 2023 yet this article references McLaren having a pull rod rear so to be honest I wouldn't trust it very much.

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trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 10:56
mwillems wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 10:09
trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 04:35
I know in the beginning of 2022 McLaren used a front pullrod and rear pushrod suspension, with Red Bull being the only other team with the same setup. It's clear the front pullrod was carried over for 2023 but can't remember for certain if the rear pushrod was carried over as well.

Can anyone confirm if the rear being pushrod is the same for 2023?

As a side question have any of the other teams also adopted front pull/rear pushrod suspension?

Edit: looking at this drawing by GP it seems to still be a pushrod
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... men-1.webp
It was us and Red Bull that adopted this, I'm not aware of anyone else but I'm not sure.

Edit:
It was just Mclaren and Red Bull as of the Australian GP this year, so I expect nothing has changed:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... x1Dhz.html
I saw that article before but thinking back I do remember seeing pictures of McLaren showing a pushrod rear both in 2022 and 2023 yet this article references McLaren having a pull rod rear so to be honest I wouldn't trust it very much.
McLaren definitely uses - Front: Pull-rod; Rear: Push-rod.

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trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 10:56
mwillems wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 10:09
trinidefender wrote:
29 Sep 2023, 04:35
I know in the beginning of 2022 McLaren used a front pullrod and rear pushrod suspension, with Red Bull being the only other team with the same setup. It's clear the front pullrod was carried over for 2023 but can't remember for certain if the rear pushrod was carried over as well.

Can anyone confirm if the rear being pushrod is the same for 2023?

As a side question have any of the other teams also adopted front pull/rear pushrod suspension?

Edit: looking at this drawing by GP it seems to still be a pushrod
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... men-1.webp
It was us and Red Bull that adopted this, I'm not aware of anyone else but I'm not sure.

Edit:
It was just Mclaren and Red Bull as of the Australian GP this year, so I expect nothing has changed:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... x1Dhz.html
I saw that article before but thinking back I do remember seeing pictures of McLaren showing a pushrod rear both in 2022 and 2023 yet this article references McLaren having a pull rod rear so to be honest I wouldn't trust it very much.
Yes I was looking on my phone before and thought the Alpine Push Rod rear was for Mclaren, It says Pull rod for both, which is not correct. We are a push rod rear, pull front.
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It's been a pushrod rear since the beginning of '22

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From McLaren Official Site, they confirm pullrod front and pushrod rear.

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula- ... ification/

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Yet another sidepod design?

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Clear view on Rear Wing's Flap Angle...

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This is an interesting tweet I dug up, it gives an idea of the overall load level of this wing that was also run in Singapore, and that it is not particularly high DF in relation to either our modest Monaco wing or the enormous Haas Monaco wing, and probably closer in relation to the Baku wing. Whereas the AoA is higher on the wing here, it is offset somewhat by the endplate winglets. Perhaps a little more DF than Baku, which was a medium wing.

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