Haas VF-24

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It's difficult to see, but looks like its still pull-rod at the rear, are they getting the 24 or 23 gearbox from Ferrari??

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Komatsu already said the started very late with development.
They will be behind in Bahrain according to him
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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 16:17
https://i.imgur.com/gUKoEoG.jpeg

Rb18-like sidepods but no crease
So more McLaren-like than RB-like (all the same concept though)

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complicated front wing endplate corner design, very similar to that of the W14. Makes me feel this is representative of real car

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No water slides, nice undercut, Red Bull style inlets and still a fairly petite centerline.
Front suspension fairly normal, not much anti-dive.

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 16:35
complicated front wing endplate corner design, very similar to that of the W14. Makes me feel this is representative of real car

https://i.imgur.com/8wTwTuO.png
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also feel there's more downwashing feature on their engine cover than most teams had last year

Nothing drastic overall

Frontal angle shows airbox intake still relatively small in area and the undercut looms large

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Good looking car, in fairness

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Seems compared to most teams with the "cannon" approach. The Haas cannon doesn't extend as far forwards. This should promote downwash into the coke bottle region, potentially improving airflow around the cooling outlets (such as where the rear suspension inserts into bodywork and the rear cannon exit) for improved efficiency.

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As @scuderiabrandon pointed out to me, the movement of the louvres on the Haas to the region beyond this downwashing region, located further to the rear on the cannon, provides support to this idea

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Is it me, or does it look seriously alike that Andretti windtunnel model?

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timbo wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 19:33
Is it me, or does it look seriously alike that Andretti windtunnel model?
off the top of my head
Doesn't have the sidepod crease, the lip is shorter, different airbox, different central cooling shoulders, shorter canon exit

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Couple of notes:

- last year the renders were shown without proper suspension and an early stage of bodywork, no reason to suspect anything different now, but there are definitely some clues of the actual new car in these renders

- the suspension shown now looks like a 23 model, both front and rear

- the sidepod bodywork and especially the engine cover look severely oversized, no way it will be that big

- sidepods look fairly unrefined and vf-23 renders did not show launch spec sides, so I don't think this is what we will see in testing

- the airbox ears are very, very small and I wouldn't rule out them being a render gimmick. If not, possibly some internal airflow conditioning inlet without actual ducting

- front wing shows a different, RB19-like approach, but fairly unrefined, so most likely early 24 model

- visible floor also looks very simple for a launch spec of a 3rd gen car in this rule cycle, so most likely early 24 model
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Not the real Haas VF24 but the renders are quite realistic. Many similarities with the RB19. The Ferrari 24 suspension, which will also be used by the US team, has not yet been shown. But there is some negativity in the technical department

organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 16:35
complicated front wing endplate corner design, very similar to that of the W14. Makes me feel this is representative of real car

https://i.imgur.com/8wTwTuO.png
Have discussed with Patryk Sokołovski and he rightly points out the render front wing is from the 2023 car, down to the complex endplate join which arrived with the cota upgrade


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Vanja #66 wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 22:49

- the sidepod bodywork and especially the engine cover look severely oversized, no way it will be that big

- sidepods look fairly unrefined and vf-23 renders did not show launch spec sides, so I don't think this is what we will see in testing
I can see Haas adding that Red Bull style crease that drives air to it's sides before race 1.
And maybe tweaking the undercut.

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