2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

[CaribouBread]

From all on board etc, GR drove himself into that situation comprehensively, thinking only about taking that one position from the driver in front in the last laps. He discarded the care for himself, to potentially gain that few points.

The relationship of this and GV plus Ayrton Senna too, in that they were trying to prove themselves, under a personal duress that in all likelihood compromised their priorities in looking after themselves and their own vulnerability.

In an ideal world thats not a position you'd want to put a driver in, with in this case so little to gain. More judgement is needed from GR or any other driver in this situation I believe, that to fundamentally reduce the inevitable risk that comes within this sport.

You bring up a very important issue and I think this is overlooked in general sometimes, in pursuit of pure empirical and rational explanations.

[chrisc90]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.




New evidence for AMR to appeal?

[Just_a_fan]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.

https://ibb.co/RvhP1jj


New evidence for AMR to appeal?

It was deliberate action by Alonso as shown by all of the evidence. No need to appeal just take the punishment and move on, learning from the whole episode.

[Cs98]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.

https://ibb.co/RvhP1jj


New evidence for AMR to appeal?

Of course not, the driving was erratic no matter. Drivers need to be able to look at their steering wheel on the straight and make switch changes without fear of the guy ahead suddenly braking on the straight.

[Espresso]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.

https://ibb.co/RvhP1jj


New evidence for AMR to appeal?

Of course not, the driving was erratic no matter. Drivers need to be able to look at their steering wheel on the straight and make switch changes without fear of the guy ahead suddenly braking on the straight.

Sure it was. That´s called racing. FIA should have the guts to revert the penalty themself.
But the dude not looking where he drives is the one at fault. Especially when you want to pass another dude!

Someone made a good comparison to Max vs Kimmi. Barcelona 2016.
The way he defended was....just like Alonso did. He only did it for round after round after corner.....

Best case scenario, it shows how some drivers uses words to shove a penalty into anothers a....

[pipoloko]

The race Today
Tangential to the penalty, many drivers called for modifications in the Turn 6/7 combination where Russell crashed. This is on the basis that the angle of the barrier on the left-hand-side that Russell hit directs cars back onto the track.

While the barrier has always been oriented in that way since the Albert Park circuit first joined the world championship calendar in 1996, this part of the track has become significantly quicker. Turn 6 was widened by more than seven metres, which meant a significant increase in corner entry speed - as it’s now taken in sixth gear on a fast lap compared to fourth before the change.

[sp8472]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.




New evidence for AMR to appeal?

Another good reason why the number of things a drive can change on steering wheel buttons should be limited. You see it every race. Drivers are changing settings before almost every corner. Drivers should drive the car in the race, not switch buttons. The constant changing of brake bias and diff settings is unnecessary. Like engine mode they should have to choose a setting and race with it. This may make more interesting racing too as cars may not be so perfect in performance in every corner anymore and braking ability may change during the race.


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[458Spider]

I think Russell has a point. I actually agree it was dangerous driving by both Bottas and Alonso when they moved or slowed in his direction. Both times GR over-reacts and flies off the circuit. People are saying it is a skill issue because he had enough room to react. But I doubt they have ever been in a car at that speed and fiddling with buttons on a steering wheel in tricky aero or wet conditions with Bottas. I don't actually think these cars are good for driving or racing, nor does it make sense to test these drivers IT skills instead of their race craft. Perhaps the older cars allowed more dangerous moves in defence too as they were more predictable. It is clear the era of Schumacher and Alonso and Hamilton and Bottas pushed beyond the limits in defensive driving, but maybe also a problem for the youngsters like Albon or Russell who have been taught more rules and clean racing and get taken off easily.

But in short, complaining about the steering wheel adjustments is a separate issue to a car slowing unexpectedly or moving towards you differently in the braking zone. I'd rather there were cars with less dirty air, better aero, that could race closer, and had less computers on their steering wheel. Then maybe no one would be caught off guard like the old days.

[Cs98]

Sounds like George wasn’t paying attention.

https://ibb.co/RvhP1jj


New evidence for AMR to appeal?

Of course not, the driving was erratic no matter. Drivers need to be able to look at their steering wheel on the straight and make switch changes without fear of the guy ahead suddenly braking on the straight.

Sure it was. That´s called racing. FIA should have the guts to revert the penalty themself.
But the dude not looking where he drives is the one at fault. Especially when you want to pass another dude!

Someone made a good comparison to Max vs Kimmi. Barcelona 2016.
The way he defended was....just like Alonso did. He only did it for round after round after corner.....

Best case scenario, it shows how some drivers uses words to shove a penalty into anothers a....

You telling me Max was lifting, braking and then going back on throttle on the straights? Stop it.