2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

[El Scorchio]

Now I see it again, the flutter is significantly reducing the front facing surface area/drag of the wing. Looked like they were altering the wing on both cars later in the session so perhaps they've been advised not to do it, or it was just an experiment?

[WaikeCU]

Now I see it again, the flutter is significantly reducing the front facing surface area/drag of the wing. Looked like they were altering the wing on both cars later in the session so perhaps they've been advised not to do it, or it was just an experiment?

This flapping thing was already seen at Brazil last weekend. So I doubt they are experimenting, when it's actually a thing. Unless what was seen last weekend was also during FP

[SiLo]

That flapping legit looks dangerous. What if it fails mid way down a straight and Max/Perez ploughs into the back of someone?

[siskue2005]

Now I see it again, the flutter is significantly reducing the front facing surface area/drag of the wing. Looked like they were altering the wing on both cars later in the session so perhaps they've been advised not to do it, or it was just an experiment?

If intentional they were trying to stall it?
But this has been going on for 3 weekends now... they are going to change them to non fluttery ones for the race... maybe Toto was on to some thing

[Marty_Y]

That flapping legit looks dangerous. What if it fails mid way down a straight and Max/Perez ploughs into the back of someone?

They did say on the BBC website that Red Bull were "working" on the wing again this weekend, a fourth in a row.

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Andrew Benson

BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

[siskue2005]

That flapping legit looks dangerous. What if it fails mid way down a straight and Max/Perez ploughs into the back of someone?

They did say on the BBC website that Red Bull were "working" on the wing again this weekend, a fourth in a row.

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Andrew Benson

BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

In fp2 they were changing something on the drs actuators on both cars

[WaikeCU]

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

It's that the same repairs they had to do in Parc Fermé? Or is that something else on the rear wing?

[siskue2005]

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

It's that the same repairs they had to do in Parc Fermé? Or is that something else on the rear wing?

It's the same thing they changed, the upper flap and the gimbal

[Tizz]

If intentional they were trying to stall it?
But this has been going on for 3 weekends now... they are going to change them to non fluttery ones for the race... maybe Toto was on to some thing

Isn't it simply underdimensioned ?

[Pany]

That flapping legit looks dangerous. What if it fails mid way down a straight and Max/Perez ploughs into the back of someone?

They did say on the BBC website that Red Bull were "working" on the wing again this weekend, a fourth in a row.

"
Andrew Benson

BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

In fp2 they were changing something on the drs actuators on both cars

It seems it happen in braking zone. So difficoult to understand what might be the pros and cons

[siskue2005]

They did say on the BBC website that Red Bull were "working" on the wing again this weekend, a fourth in a row.

"
Andrew Benson

BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer

It is now four races in a row that Red Bull have had to make repairs to the rear wing..."

In fp2 they were changing something on the drs actuators on both cars

It seems it happen in braking zone. So difficoult to understand what might be the pros and cons

Both in Brazil and Qatar as I saw on the video looks like it happens before the braking zone, right at the end of straight

[cirrusflyer]

It is called flutter.
Watch this video:


And explanation here:


If you don't decelerate, wing brakes.

[Marty_Y]

It is called flutter.
Watch this video:


And explanation here:


If you don't decelerate, wing brakes.

But why is it so much more exaggerated on the Red Bull's?

[cirrusflyer]

It is called flutter.
Watch this video:


And explanation here:


If you don't decelerate, wing brakes.

But why is it so much more exaggerated on the Red Bull's?

Unbalanced movable surfice. At flying this phenomenon is not wanted. I do not understand why Adrian N. woul'd want this.
Except if it happens becouse of some funky mechanism that allows bigger opening with extreme excentric clamping of the wing.

As I looked a bit more into this what happens at flutter is BIG los of lift on the wing. Therefore drag also gets les and that would be benefitial for top speed of the car.

[Starkblood80]

It appears that some people just cannot help themselves. We have had fake sound tracks, quotes from that famous F1 driver...Bruce Lee, comments about team principals etc etc....but nothing about the Qatar GP.. So, a number of posts have been removed. Please try to act like sensible adults and discuss the upcoming race with some civility. Thank you.

Sounds like I missed a party