Malaysian GP 2009 - Sepang

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jon-mullen wrote:Can you believe 18 cars finished that race?

Bernie and Max continue to look the fool, it was dry(er) and dark when the TV coverage ended.
It would have been a lot less had the race gone on for even 1 more lap.

yeah those two F--kwits continue to do their best to bugger things up - even Marcos Ambrose (multiple Aussie V8SC Champ & now NASCAR Sprint Cup Driver who had some success in europe in Formula Ford) mentioned during a recent NASCAR race interview that he thinks F1 are doing everything possible to ruin their own sport! :shock:
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jon-mullen wrote:Can you believe 18 cars finished that race?

Bernie and Max continue to look the fool, it was dry(er) and dark when the TV coverage ended.
18 cars did not finish. They were classified as such, but the did not finish :(
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We'll all be crying for the diffuser to be banned once Button secures his 4th straight win ...

It wasn't a classic wet race, because the rain was monsoon like it was clear it would be all over very quickly. Lewis radioed in to say the car was hitting the rev limiter very quickly when he was on the extremes, I imagine having no traction caused by their rubbish downforce would be the cause of that, rather than a mechnical problem?

KERS usage was clearer to see I think on this track, alonso had some success in defending his position when using it.

Vettel has a long way to go before hes Championship winning material ...

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djos wrote:even Marcos Ambrose ....he thinks F1 are doing everything possible to ruin their own sport!
Classy call from Marcos. He's always been a bit of a big mouth but he's pretty much right in this instance.

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That race was like BAD sex : a promising start with plenty of action, followed by a lot of tedium with nobody sure exactly when it had finished, confusion about who came second and a lot of sitting around in the wet talking about the participants feelings ...

*YAWN*
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Fia again wrecked another race. Glock was going to catch button at the very end...

Distributing half points, what a farce!!! :roll:
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fia wrecked?

I think the weather had more to do with it.

The half point wasn't just made up. It's been used before.
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gridwalker wrote:That race was like BAD sex : a promising start with plenty of action, followed by a lot of tedium with nobody sure exactly when it had finished, confusion about who came second and a lot of sitting around in the wet talking about the participants feelings ...

*YAWN*
=D> :lol:

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Just got back from the race, Too bad there was the rain! but it slowed down at the back straight(where i was sitted) after 20 minutes, only thing there was alot of stagnate water but if they raced behind the safety car they would have dispersed the water!

On the other hand.. great atmosphere. this is my 6th Malaysian GP, i think this was the best outing. and suprisingly the new wings dont look that ugly in real life!!

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I really like this shot. It show's the sidepod shields deflecting the water down and away past the rear wheels and under the floor.

It's a cool angle and although air would behave slightly different, this really shows what those splitters do.

Sorry about the quality. 480 of of analog cable doesn't really cut the pizza.
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Does anyone know what the white-things coming off the rear wing of the car were when they were coming down the back-straight when the rain started coming down?
I was thinking it may have been St Elmo's fire but I'm not sure. I saw it a few times in the race. Struggling to find a photo though.
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roost89 wrote:Does anyone know what the white-things coming off the rear wing of the car were when they were coming down the back-straight when the rain started coming down?
I was thinking it may have been St Elmo's fire but I'm not sure. I saw it a few times in the race. Struggling to find a photo though.
i noticed that as well.
was it the airflow? or the water?

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Those are the same wingtip vortices you see on jet planes.

The most air gets compressed and becomes visible.

A bit of both I guess.

Welcome to Formula 1. We need new fans ;p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingtip_vortices
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they are visible in high humidity... often in the past we used to see them in wet/damp conditions.

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vyselegend wrote:The most advanced technology of the 21st century... Cannot whistand the rain...
Here's your choice. Do you want a car that can go very fast and handle very well in ideal conditions, ie, 90% of the racing situations, or do you want a very slow, poorly handling car that will handle well in the less than 5% of racing situations when it's pouring rain? Also, I'd like to see your concepts for how to get a car capable of both, 'cause I'm sure if you were smarter than Brawn, Newey, and the like, wouldn't you be in their jobs instead?
Even though that rain was predicted half a week ago. And then the FIA needs 50mn to state the obvious.
Yet the race was scheduled almost a year ago. What is this obviousness you speak of? They try to run the race, and they try to complete the race. That is the rules. They don't call it until there is no alternative. The reason they were waiting was that they wanted the opportunity to restart under the SC, and get 3/4 of the race done, giving the drivers and teams full points, rather than half.
Now let's hope China will be more professionaly handled.
Riiight. You should go apply for a position in F1. Anywhere. With a team, or the FIA, or somewhere. Your rich resume of perspectiveless rantings should get you riiiight in.

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De Jokke wrote:Fia again wrecked another race. Glock was going to catch button at the very end...
Near as I can tell, Bernie and Max didn't charter some planes to do cloud seeding. I'm fairly certain the rain was a natural phenomenon.
distributing half points, what a farce!!! :roll:
In the rules, you must complete 3/4 of the race to award full points. As they had not reached that point, as in the rules, they could only award half points.

People. If you don't have a grasp on the sport, much less reality, please consider investing some time rectifying the matter.

This wasn't a case of a few guys sitting around a table with a bottle of scotch, making --- up as they went along today. THAT took place years ago, they wrote a rulebook, and they're attempting to follow them. Granted, no rule can anticipate every situation, and then we rely upon the judgment of race officials. Sometimes it's good, other times it's not so much.

But today, the race officials did everything as perfectly as possible. They rolled out the SC right when they should have, when the rain was too severe to race, and not a moment earlier. They stopped the race at the right moment, when it was too sketchy to run under the SC. This is evident because nobody got hurt. They did everything in their power to delay their decision to end, because had they restarted under the SC, they could have completed 3/4 of the race, giving the teams and racers full points. When they had no more time, they cancelled.

Everyone who thinks otherwise: How exactly should they have proceeded today, keeping in mind that safety is the first concern, and following the rules of racing is not up for debate?