Scuderia Ferrari F1-75 speculation thread

[Blackout]

What's interesting is the shape of the cooling outlet at the back. It's very different and smaller than the usual Ferrari/Haas wide and peanut-shaped exit

But then again, the new cooling louvers (left) are missing in the Haas render...

[codetower]

How does DRS work with these wings? I don't see room for the open/close.

[F1NAC]

How does DRS work with these wings? I don't see room for the open/close.

Because there is no DRS yet shown.

[Schippke]

Interesting to see that even though the sidepods of the Haas looks weirdly bulbous, it seems that the overall volume of the engine/engine cover is significantly reduced. More interesting even when you consider that the wheelbase is shorter.

I'm expecting to see that kind rear end tightness on a lot of the cars this year, as the Louvers that are allowed to be run on the body work once more to aid cooling. The side pods themselves still look quite large overall BUT this is just the first car to be launched (and in renders too) so lets see what the next few are before comparing it to what concepts we see here might end-up on the F1-75.

[JPBD1990]

Comparing the front of the sidepods to the F1 show car, to my eye the volume appears to be the same/similar. The different being, in the F1 show car, the air inlet fills that volume and is swooping backwards, while the Haas has a small inlet tucked in next to the monocoque with free space to the end of that dimension. The F1 show car gives a more aggressive look - but if there simply is not a cooling requirement for such a large air intake, then naturally the intake would be smaller but the volume remains the same. Right?

I’m not familiar enough with the 2022 regs to say so for sure, that’s speculation based on pictures. Do any experts actually know for sure if the min dimension of the sidepod is standardised?

For reference this is what I’m referring to - the actual space from the monocoque to the most outer point of the sidepod appears to be the same size. Is that standardised?



I know the picture and post relates to the Haas, but I think belongs here because I’m speculating about how these themes will apply to the F1-75 incoming. Ta

[JPBD1990]

To the above, @west52keep64 made the same point in the VF-22 speculation thread, and I think it is a regulated volume. As such, I think we’re in for most sidepods looking similar surely? Given the air box is already tiny, and the sidepods can still be that small, there just must not be the need for cooling that the F1 show car implies with the size of their inlets…

[wowgr8]

I would hate it if the rulemakers designed the cars specifically to have those bulbous sidepods considering the incredible engineering we'd seen in this area over the last few years. To me it seems as though they wrote the rules to look a lot like a car from the 90s and ignored all the advancements made over the last few years, they effectively outlawed the high inlet sidepods too for what reason?

[timbo]

I would hate it if the rulemakers designed the cars specifically to have those bulbous sidepods considering the incredible engineering we'd seen in this area over the last few years. To me it seems as though they wrote the rules to look a lot like a car from the 90s and ignored all the advancements made over the last few years, they effectively outlawed the high inlet sidepods too for what reason?

This area is regulated for driver safety against t-boning.

[Henri]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... surprises/

Binotto saying these cars are faster in high speed corners than last years cars. But slower in the slower corners.. interesting

[Emag]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... surprises/

Binotto saying these cars are faster in high speed corners than last years cars. But slower in the slower corners.. interesting

Well, the cars are heavier, so it's not surprising that they are slower in the slower corners.

[Schippke]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... surprises/

Binotto saying these cars are faster in high speed corners than last years cars. But slower in the slower corners.. interesting

Well, the cars are heavier, so it's not surprising that they are slower in the slower corners.

Also need to consider the fact that the floor is producing a lot (more) of the downforce now compared to the rest of the car (not that it wasn't previously, but is even more crucial now), and at low speeds it has much less of an effect than it does at higher speeds... combined with the weight, that all adds up in the end.

[LM10]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyq8dXMAI ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvyjJvXMAA ... name=large

formu1a uno reporting Haas will use the same cooling layout as Ferrari as we'd expect, thoughts from a Ferrari POV?

The coke bottle area is very slim but the front of the sidepods are so big and bulky, discouraging to me because I'm sure Mercedes, Red Bull and even McLaren will find a way to make the entire sidepod extremely slim

I'm also not sure why they keep trying the triangular airbox I just don't see the benefit of stuffing everything into the sidepods when you're trying to slim them down. They themselves backtracked from the triangle roll hoop intake in 2021 and now they're going back to it?

Not looking positive to me so far

How do you know that making the entire sidepod "extremely slim" is the way to go or, in other words, beneficial compared to sidepods like Haas? There is a reason Haas has gone that route. Look at how small the inlets are. There surely was way more scope for them to make the sidepods smaller, but obviously they've chosen not to do it.

As for the triangle airbox, Ferrari needed to completely change their cooling concept last year. One part of that was getting rid of that. Does not make sense to automatically conclude a negative thing from it, like you did.

[basti313]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... surprises/

Binotto saying these cars are faster in high speed corners than last years cars. But slower in the slower corners.. interesting

Well, the cars are heavier, so it's not surprising that they are slower in the slower corners.

Yes, but the main factor is the weight of the tires. I guess overall weight could be well over compensated with the improvements from year to year, but the tire weight hurts much more.

[wogx]

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[Csmith1980]

https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comme ... cEWq5J.jpg

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK6onFtXoAY ... ame=medium

Stealing Mercedes’ trick lol