Chinese GP 2009 - Shanghai

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roost89 wrote: I'm guessing at home and 'cos Gazza is better :D

Good race today. ...Glad to see RBR finally getting the win they so deserve! Both them and Brawn had a great strategy just that Red Bull was alot faster.
Some rather spectacular incidents today, caused by the spray.
Ditto... on all you've said :mrgreen:

Like I said...I don't envy the commentators when even they can't see sh*t... All the spray created more excitement as you follow a posit scrap from the FOM cameras' perspective. If you watch it with your friends on the same set and with the same conditions, you can start your own betting party everytime the the TV director changes cameras! :lol:
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Great race indeed! Congrats to RBR =D> Too bad for Buemi, he was doin´ fine untill #-o BMW´s are definitly lacking pace together with the ferraris and mc´s it´s kinda funny, the best teams from last year running @ the back of the field :lol: Definitly an exciting season this one!

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De Jokke
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true but the mac started as worst car (compared to bmw and fer) and is now the best of those three. They are improving fast. Can't wait until bahrein.
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shir0 wrote:The Red Bulls really are quick in the wet, aren't they?

If the horny, Vettel kid wins this
Eh? What a rather strange and inappropriate thing to say.

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Good win , finally for RBR, and Webbos best finish ever!!! Congrats to them.

Wonder when a few drivers are gonna get binned;

Piquet - 3 P17 Qualis and consistantly poor performances.
Nakajima - This guy is a danger, and again consistantly poor performances.
Bourdais - Seems to be strugeling in a good enough car, consistantly out performed by a younger driver.

Those 3 drivers are the 3 candidates to be binned. Id see Nakajima for Kobiyashi, being the Toyota driver there, Piquet for Groesjean posibly and i can see Hartley for Bourdais or posibly Piquet, ill also include Sato in for that drive as well.

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Renault aint gonna bin Piquet, after this season renault will stop the team, thats why they kept the shitty driving Piquet.

Another guy to be replaced is Sutil, he is making an incredible amount of mistakes when it isnt needed, he was on a points finish but he screws it up...again.
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WoooHooo, awesome awesome race and a simply Brilliant 1-2 result for Vettel & Webber! =D>
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freedom_honda wrote:If they stay behind the SC any longer, the RBR's race is over.
Thank God Horner didn't listen to you or Gascoyne! :mrgreen:
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Stupid Renault strategists. Alonso was calculated to pit on lap 10 by almost everyone (TV stations included), and considering 2 SC laps equal one regular lap (as shown by every other driver), he could've pitted on lap 12/13 - at which point, assuming he stayed just a few seconds behind Vettel (reasonable to assume, considering his light weight), he would've come out 5th. Instead, on that same lap, he was far behind, out of the top 10.

And that unfortunate spin... Looks like Vettel was the only one who drove absolutely faultless today.

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djos wrote:
freedom_honda wrote:If they stay behind the SC any longer, the RBR's race is over.
Thank God Horner didn't listen to you or Gascoyne! :mrgreen:
haha too bad they didn't or Brawn would have won the race.... probably :lol:

now i see why Gascoyne was sacked haha.

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A definite big congrats to the boys from Milton Keynes. What a long time a year is in F1. Only a short time ago we were saying how unbeatable Ferarri and Macca were, how BMW were on the rise with their first 1-2 in Canada.

Now Ferrari and BMW look to be in dissaray and Macca are facing a very unpleasant WSC that could have far reaching consequences.

Biggest simpathies of the day are with Force india / Sutil. Despite the criticism that was a real tank slapper in a river. Really unlucky. If you compare that to lewis who spun at least twice in the same spot riding the same curb, then which is worse?

As for qualifying I think RBR proved that they have both dry and wet pace but Brawn are clearly softer on the tires. That gives them good race pace in the dry especially with fuel however it meant they couldn't generate the same heat in the wet. Jenson basically admitted as much in the uni's.

I think the Championship looks to be quite interesting. Brawn are fast now but there is a question mark on their development potential. RBR are clearly the best non DDD car and have a lot to gain from a reworked rear end. Toyota had a disspointing race but are clearly there abouts, Macca are improving but have a WSC hurdle, TEam Willy will do the same as the last 5 years and will march backwards from here and Renault ( and I mean Alonso) will be the unknown Chamelon.

Have to agree that Piquest / Bourdais / Nakajima will have to do a lot more from here to be doing any F1 testing of Jan 2010.

Big congrats to webber who ducked opening his brolly inside while walking under a ladder in front of a back cat on Friday the 13th. I could feel the mixed emotions that were clearly there under the surface. Happy to be 2nd nut Boywonder gets the 1st RBR win and all associated cudos. Actually come to think of it Webbo's luck might not have improved at all :? :? :?

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paused wrote:As for qualifying I think RBR proved that they have both dry and wet pace but Brawn are clearly softer on the tires. That gives them good race pace in the dry especially with fuel however it meant they couldn't generate the same heat in the wet. Jenson basically admitted as much in the uni's.
iirc Ross Brawn was quoted as saying that even in the dry the RedBulls where much faster thru the high speed corners and that the BGP01's simply couldn't maintain the same speeds and they had no idea why.

I postulate that the supremely low CG of Newey's RB5 combined with the "V keel" style front end and consequently very low central mount points of the lower suspension arms and overall Aero efficiency would be the reason why.

Im no expert tho, what do you chaps think?
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djos wrote:
paused wrote:As for qualifying I think RBR proved that they have both dry and wet pace but Brawn are clearly softer on the tires. That gives them good race pace in the dry especially with fuel however it meant they couldn't generate the same heat in the wet. Jenson basically admitted as much in the uni's.
iirc Ross Brawn was quoted as saying that even in the dry the RedBulls where much faster thru the high speed corners and that the BGP01's simply couldn't maintain the same speeds and they had no idea why.

I postulate that the supremely low CG of Newey's RB5 combined with the "V keel" style front end and consequently very low central mount points of the lower suspension arms and overall Aero efficiency would be the reason why.

Im no expert tho, what do you chaps think?
Jenson said the Red Bulls are really strong at the high speed corner but they didn't say anything about they couldn't keep up.

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freedom_honda wrote: Jenson said the Red Bulls are really strong at the high speed corner but they didn't say anything about they couldn't keep up.
Ah yes you are correct, I found the comments:

Brawn surprised by Red Bull speed
You could see in Q2 that the Red Bulls were very strong in the high-speed corners and we knew then that we would have a fight on our hands.
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Friday 13 for Kubica.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA9HX6Kjxx8[/youtube]

Badly mounted nose cone or damages from first collision.
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And later on endplate is damaged and wing is touching ground.
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