2022 Alpine F1 Team

[JordanMugen]

the car is fast, specially in qualy where it is the 3rd fastest.

Are you sure?

I always hear the Alpine is the third-fastest car (Alonso saying he had a chance at pole in Australia etc), but it rarely seems to eventuate on the qualifying result let alone the race result.

Cautiously optimistic for Quali. ALO looks like a strong contender for best of the rest, maybe 2nd row of someone up front makes a mistake

Well that didn't happen.

[To be precise, Alonso's Alpine was 11th quickest behind Mercedes, AlphaTauri x 2 & Aston Martin -- so the sixth fastest car not the third, while Ocon's Alpine of course Did Not Start qualifying.]

i really think that Alonso and Alpine can win 2 or 3 races this season and 5-6-7 podiums.

I'd be delighted if the Alpine is that fast, but it doesn't seem that fast to me. Where is the evidence that the Alpine is a race winning and regular podium car, or even the third-fastest car as suggested?

It just seems like more of the usual Renault or Alpine promises that never eventuate to anything. I am reminded that Pat Fry expects it to take at least 2-3 more seasons for Alpine's facilities or "tools" to catch up to the leading teams, then perhaps add a couple more years after that to build a race winning car? So a far cry from an expectation of winning 2-3 races in the 2023 season.

[Alonsismo]

the car is fast, specially in qualy where it is the 3rd fastest.

Are you sure?

I always hear the Alpine is the third-fastest car (Alonso saying he had a chance at pole in Australia etc), but it rarely seems to eventuate on the qualifying result let alone the race result.

Cautiously optimistic for Quali. ALO looks like a strong contender for best of the rest, maybe 2nd row of someone up front makes a mistake

Well that didn't happen.

[To be precise, Alonso's Alpine was 11th quickest behind Mercedes, AlphaTauri x 2 & Aston Martin -- so the sixth fastest car not the third, while Ocon's Alpine of course Did Not Start qualifying.]

i really think that Alonso and Alpine can win 2 or 3 races this season and 5-6-7 podiums.

I'd be delighted if the Alpine is that fast, but it doesn't seem that fast to me. Where is the evidence that the Alpine is a race winning and regular podium car, or even the third-fastest car as suggested?

It just seems like more of the usual Renault or Alpine promises that never eventuate to anything. I am reminded that Pat Fry expects it to take at least 2-3 more seasons for Alpine's facilities or "tools" to catch up to the leading teams, then perhaps add a couple more years after that to build a race winning car? So a far cry from an expectation of winning 2-3 races in the 2023 season.

alonso had bad luck in every single race.
even now he lost a lot of time due to Sainz's traffic at turn 15-16.

we only need a normal qualy to see fernando at p5 or better (ocon will not be able to do this because he is 0,3-0.5 slower than fernando).

[Alonso Fan]

[diffuser]

Not sure what happened in Q2, if he made a mistake or if Sainz gotin his way. It didn't look like he did but it looked like it affect Alonso. At any rate he was green in the first 5 segments of S2, so he looked ready to beat the the 34.413 from his previous lap. Even the 34.413 would have put him into Q3.


Just more bad luck or failure to execute.

He may or may not be faster than the cars ahead of him but if he's faster we're talking about 2 or 3 10ths over a flat out lap. Over a race pace lap, it's a different story. Not sure they've fixed their race pace problems.y Fear is that

My fear is their lack of race pace is caused by a shortage of DF. This forces then to make time up on a higher top speeds, which turns into a harder breaking at the end of the straights and just more wear in the slow sections.

They need to F*CKEN EXECUTE, bad luck excuses are for LOSERS.

[elMaestro]

This car for some reason baffles me. From being a contender for a top 5 it went out of Q2 today. Can someone maybe fill me in with what is going on with this car?

[diffuser]

This car for some reason baffles me. From being a contender for a top 5 it went out of Q2 today. Can someone maybe fill me in with what is going on with this car?

Did you not read anything in this forum prior to asking the question? He either made a mistake or Sainz traffic slowed him down in the 2nd sector. The car had the speed to get into Q3. Probably 5th or 6th. Still they're not executing, they found another way to screw it up.

[elMaestro]

This car for some reason baffles me. From being a contender for a top 5 it went out of Q2 today. Can someone maybe fill me in with what is going on with this car?

Did you not read anything in this forum prior to asking the question? He either made a mistake or Sainz traffic slowed him down in the 2nd sector. The car had the speed to get into Q3. Probably 5th or 6th. Still they're not executing, they found another way to screw it up.

No, just got off work and i saw a small part of the highlights from youtube. Thats why i was asking.

[diffuser]

This car for some reason baffles me. From being a contender for a top 5 it went out of Q2 today. Can someone maybe fill me in with what is going on with this car?

Did you not read anything in this forum prior to asking the question? He either made a mistake or Sainz traffic slowed him down in the 2nd sector. The car had the speed to get into Q3. Probably 5th or 6th. Still they're not executing, they found another way to screw it up.

No, just got off work and i saw a small part of the highlights from youtube. Thats why i was asking.

Sorry, I was frustrated yesterday and took it out on you...but you should read the forum before you ask questions.

[max_speed]

Not sure what happened in Q2, if he made a mistake or if Sainz gotin his way. It didn't look like he did but it looked like it affect Alonso. At any rate he was green in the first 5 segments of S2, so he looked ready to beat the the 34.413 from his previous lap. Even the 34.413 would have put him into Q3.


Just more bad luck or failure to execute.

He may or may not be faster than the cars ahead of him but if he's faster we're talking about 2 or 3 10ths over a flat out lap. Over a race pace lap, it's a different story. Not sure they've fixed their race pace problems.y Fear is that

My fear is their lack of race pace is caused by a shortage of DF. This forces then to make time up on a higher top speeds, which turns into a harder breaking at the end of the straights and just more wear in the slow sections.

They need to F*CKEN EXECUTE, bad luck excuses are for LOSERS.

I am also very angry , i also feel Alonso is struggling a but . In all the races so far whenever i felt its game on something went wrong. You are right , dnt hide behind excuses. We all have been waiting for year 2022 for renault to finally catchup and so far it has been ****show only.

[diffuser]

Not sure what happened in Q2, if he made a mistake or if Sainz gotin his way. It didn't look like he did but it looked like it affect Alonso. At any rate he was green in the first 5 segments of S2, so he looked ready to beat the the 34.413 from his previous lap. Even the 34.413 would have put him into Q3.


Just more bad luck or failure to execute.

He may or may not be faster than the cars ahead of him but if he's faster we're talking about 2 or 3 10ths over a flat out lap. Over a race pace lap, it's a different story. Not sure they've fixed their race pace problems.y Fear is that

My fear is their lack of race pace is caused by a shortage of DF. This forces then to make time up on a higher top speeds, which turns into a harder breaking at the end of the straights and just more wear in the slow sections.

They need to F*CKEN EXECUTE, bad luck excuses are for LOSERS.

I am also very angry , i also feel Alonso is struggling a but . In all the races so far whenever i felt its game on something went wrong. You are right , dnt hide behind excuses. We all have been waiting for year 2022 for renault to finally catchup and so far it has been ****show only.

Not sure you can put it on Alonso cause he is geniunly faster than Ocon over the last few races. His side of the garage are making mistakes like:
1 - PU power issues in the Bahrain. PU had to be examined to find out what was wrong.
2 - Cooling failure in Saudi
3 - Austrailia, Hydrolics in quali was down to a bad seal. There was no rush at the assembly of the car, again something that should never of happened.
4- PU elctronic issue they had at the Sprint in Imola. It left him with no Battery power and the PU in full charge mode at the start of that sprint. (should never of happened).
5 - If he made a mistake cause he was pushing too hard,that's onething but if they sent out at the wrong time, it full back on his team. I haven't see the onboard.

[Redragon]

On 11 place, and starting with harder compound, if Alonso survive the start. Could score some good points if he is away of the wall. Safety cars is gonna play a big time today. Hopefully some luck back today

[Kamel]

Tyre deg progress is obvious, but competitors are not asleep, so Alpine sinks deeper and deeper into this middle group

[Alonsismo]

gasly is blind...

alonso shouldnt got that penalty.

[Michelangelo]

P7 looked like the maximum result for the day. If that undercut worked on Gasly, without that 3 sec slower stop, P7 looked very possible. Penalty is understandable as the move looked a bit optimistic.

[Jambier]

Another bad weekend like all weekend for the team

What a bad luck!

But anyway the car is very far from expectations