2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[McL-H]

Does anyone have picture of Binotto pointing his finger at Leclerc?

[Xyz22]

Miles slower than his teammate despite this amount of damage:



Good luck for the title !

[jumpingfish]

I don't want to say that I'm an expert, but even I understand that once Ocon started to slow down near the wall, Ferrari's strategists MUST to tell their mechanics to get ready for a double pit stop with soft tires. Not to wait for the safety car to appear in order to react to it, but to predict it, to prepare for it in advance. Let the mechanics wait, the SC appears - at the same second the call should sound to both drivers. Are the strategists so stupid that they do not see this?

[Shal_Leg16]

cmooooooon

great win for sainz.

sainz comeback is still going, and this win is a big gain in confidence for him.

yeah

This raced proved why he will never be a serious contender. Slower than Leclerc despite the latter having damage and also made a sloppy mistake the moment he was under pressure.

Another Sainz will never? Let’s list the ones I’ve heard since he’s signed.

Sainz will never:

- Outqualify Leclerc
- Handle Ferrari politics
- Get an extension at Ferrari
- Outscore Leclerc
- Win a race at Ferrari

Its not that serious. Let’s lay off the prediction making.

that list of targets only explains what type of driver he is. i guess it doesnt matter how many times he does that isnt it? for eg.- even if qualy record stands 8-2 in leclerc's favour but still sainz clipped it once thats all matters - Sainz Outqualifyed Leclerc is the reality for you.

also,
Hope all that sh*t wont be his ultimate carrier achaivments when he hangs his boots, imagine somewher in 2050 and there is referrance of sainz , and the guy would say what great achievments Sainz had ,

He....
- Outqualified Leclerc ( occationally )
- Handle Ferrari politics ( supposively all PR Bs. )
- Get an extension at Ferrari ( as if he wouldnt )
- Outscore Leclerc ( with luck )
- Win a race at Ferrari ( with luck, max perez both had issues, leclerc screwed )


on serious note ...dont want to be bitter ...if Sainz actually had won it with performance ... sure leclerc fans would have to swallow it anyway but lest his fans would stand a better and proud chance to bring on this comparison debate. Reality is Sainz does not win without Luck. even today Max had issue, Perez had a hit from leclerc, Leclerc himself got screwed , then he also indirectly helped sainz by holding off both Perez , Lewis in that last phase.

[taperoo2k]

Another Sainz will never? Let’s list the ones I’ve heard since he’s signed.

Sainz will never:

- Outqualify Leclerc
- Handle Ferrari politics
- Get an extension at Ferrari
- Outscore Leclerc
- Win a race at Ferrari

Its not that serious. Let’s lay off the prediction making.

I always try to judge the performance. Sainz performance today wasn't very good, like every races this year bar Canada.

He still got the win so congrats to him.

You don't have to be perfect, just good enough

Sainz made the right call on the restart after the safety car. Had he followed Ferrari's instructions, it's likely Ferrari would have lost the race today. Had he followed the pit wall ? Might have seen Lewis or Perez on the top step. Tbh Charles looked scrappy and a bit desperate today. The pressure of chasing Verstappen's championship lead might have already gotten to him. Sure Sainz wasn't as fast, but he did what he needed to win the race. He might well have put a few noses out of joint at Ferrari ? But so what ? It's about time the management were given a kick up the backside.

Ferrari will not win championships with a pit wall that sloppy. They lack the consistency of Red Bull and Mercedes respective pit walls (who do make blunders, but not that often).

[chrisc90]

Does anyone have picture of Binotto pointing his finger at Leclerc?

Page or 2 back. I posted it in this thread

[taperoo2k]

Does anyone have picture of Binotto pointing his finger at Leclerc?

[Shal_Leg16]

I always try to judge the performance. Sainz performance today wasn't very good, like every races this year bar Canada.

He still got the win so congrats to him.

You don't have to be perfect, just good enough

Sainz made the right call on the restart after the safety car. Had he followed Ferrari's instructions, it's likely Ferrari would have lost the race today. Had he followed the pit wall ? Might have seen Lewis or Perez on the top step. Tbh Charles looked scrappy and a bit desperate today. The pressure of chasing Verstappen's championship lead might have already gotten to him. Sure Sainz wasn't as fast, but he did what he needed to win the race. He might well have put a few noses out of joint at Ferrari ? But so what ? It's about time the management were given a kick up the backside.

Ferrari will not win championships with a pit wall that sloppy. They lack the consistency of Red Bull and Mercedes respective pit walls (who do make blunders, but not that often).

are we talking about same race ?

please dont try to make Sainz " The la profesora " of Ferrari by claiming it his call on every bit of luck falls his way. After SC car everyone pitted except Charles because he was the leader and may be they thought not to give away track position something similar to what happened with Lewis in lasy years finale, only difference is that then it was only 3 laps remaining so Mercedes were in more trckiy situation had lewis pitted Max would have stayed and so on. Here there was enough laps remaining to pit both drivers and pass lewis had he stayed on with his old hard tyres. They messed the strategy , it was easy 1-2 with charles winning.

lastly Charles was scrappy ?

he was lapping fatser then both Sainz and Lewis ( 8 lap fresher tyres ) with a brocken wing. before Ocon incident ...he had pulled a 3s gap on Sainz and 6s gap on lewis. i dont get what race you were watching.

[woocasz]

They are fighting for a champioship?
Leclerc should leave this "s*ithole" and after Ham retire, join Mercedes.

[Peter Ian Staker]

Watching the safety car pit stops again, I am not quite sure the gap between Leclerc and Sainz was big enough when they reached the pits to double stack without risking losing track position to Hamilton.

[Shal_Leg16]

Watching the safety car pit stops again, I am not quite sure the gap between Leclerc and Sainz was big enough when they reached the pits to double stack without risking losing track position to Hamilton.

even if we assume this true , only one car would have lost position and even then...ferrari is the faster car ,would have easily passed Lewis. we all saw Charles fought with lewis so long even with old hard tyres to Lewis's fresh softs.

[taperoo2k]

You don't have to be perfect, just good enough

Sainz made the right call on the restart after the safety car. Had he followed Ferrari's instructions, it's likely Ferrari would have lost the race today. Had he followed the pit wall ? Might have seen Lewis or Perez on the top step. Tbh Charles looked scrappy and a bit desperate today. The pressure of chasing Verstappen's championship lead might have already gotten to him. Sure Sainz wasn't as fast, but he did what he needed to win the race. He might well have put a few noses out of joint at Ferrari ? But so what ? It's about time the management were given a kick up the backside.

Ferrari will not win championships with a pit wall that sloppy. They lack the consistency of Red Bull and Mercedes respective pit walls (who do make blunders, but not that often).

are we talking about same race ?

please dont try to make Sainz " The la profesora " of Ferrari by claiming it his call on every bit of luck falls his way. After SC car everyone pitted except Charles because he was the leader and may be they thought not to give away track position something similar to what happened with Lewis in lasy years finale, only difference is that then it was only 3 laps remaining so Mercedes were in more trckiy situation had lewis pitted Max would have stayed and so on. Here there was enough laps remaining to pit both drivers and pass lewis had he stayed on with his old hard tyres. They messed the strategy , it was easy 1-2 with charles winning.

lastly Charles was scrappy ?

he was lapping fatser then both Sainz and Lewis ( 8 lap fresher tyres ) with a brocken wing. before Ocon incident ...he had pulled a 3s gap on Sainz and 6s gap on lewis. i dont get what race you were watching.

If he'd not broken the front wing he'd have probably won the race, hence scrappy (had Verstappen avoided breaking his aero, he'd have probably won the race). Sainz saw his chance of winning and he took it with both hands. You don't have to be fast to win a race, but know when to take a chance and go for it.

If you want to be angry, be angry at the Ferrari Pitwall. Pretty sure they could have double stacked and got Charles the win today. Might have wrecked Sainz's race though.

[McL-H]

Does anyone have picture of Binotto pointing his finger at Leclerc?

Thanks

[jumpingfish]

If they told Sainz: we are preparing for a double pit stop, I hope he would be smart enough to slightly increase the gap to Leclerc, Ham was behind and would not have had the opportunity to overtake under the SC. Ufffff so many points were thrown into the toilet.

[Peter Ian Staker]

Watching the safety car pit stops again, I am not quite sure the gap between Leclerc and Sainz was big enough when they reached the pits to double stack without risking losing track position to Hamilton.

even if we assume this true , only one car would have lost position and even then...ferrari is the faster car ,would have easily passed Lewis. we all saw Charles fought with lewis so long even with old hard tyres to Lewis's fresh softs.

Ferrari wasn't fast enough today to assume they could overtake Hamilton that easily.
Hamilton was faster than Sainz and was able to keep up with Leclerc most of the race and overtaking without significant tyre or car advantage wasn't easy today.