Spanish GP 2009 - Circuit de Catalunya

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modbaraban wrote:It looks like F60 suffers a lot from ECU problems this season :?
What are you implying mod?
freedom_honda wrote:Although I very much prefer Button to win, you have to feel sorry for Rubens. He could have won the race but Ross decided to give Button the advantage. I feel so sorry for Rubens.
Oh, but I thought only the evil Ferrari people would do something like that, especially so early in the season.. So, are we going to see the same shitstorm as after the A1 Ring incident? Is Rubens going to write another book about Brawn GP politics after he retires?

Well done Webber, shame for Vettel, he really should have changed strategy..

As for Ferrari.. :oops:

Again..
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modbaraban wrote:It looks like F60 suffers a lot from ECU problems this season :?

Is it Ferrari's fault that they seem to have trouble with computers and electronics? They can't interface with a standard box?

I think electrical issues are part of Italian car DNA.

If the Ferrari ECUS did die, it was bad luck as they are randomly given out by the FIA, so Mclaren could have gotten a bum one as easily, even though they made the blasted things.
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Imean Kimi obviuosly had no drive, Massa had overconsumption. In China both Ferraris had engine-electrical problems too. maybe not ECU exactly deffinitely looks like electrical problems.
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Interesting that Jenson just said on the press conference the team thought three-stop is quicker than the two stop so looks like Brawn did put Rubens on an optimal strategy. Just that Rubens wasn't able to make it work.

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Great job by Jenson & Rubens =D> =D>

Well done Webber, good result..

The Ferrari looks a lot quicker now.. but still they have KERS problems and organisation issues by not putting enough fuel into Massa's car.. :oops:
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I thought Massa's problem was not with his car but the #$&%* refueling system in the pits..
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I want to see Mark vs Fernando again! Mark made a lightning decision choice when Fernando thought he had the pass completed (which he had) just didn't take into account Marks lateness on the brakes, rather tasty!
Also Kimi vs Nick, that was a nice challenge while it lasted.

I enjoyed the race, I kept up with the strategy for most of the race, this time.
The first lap incident was rather shocking, testament to the car build and safety!
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Poor Felipe! You have to feel for him, since Brazil last year he keeps racing hard just to have his races destroyed by either his team or his car!

It looks like he exchanged luck stats with Webber. :twisted: (who's driver of the race IMO! incredible end of the second stint!)

Ferrari need to get their act together. Now that they have spent billions on the F60 to make it competitive rather than focusing early to 2010, it will be pure loss if they fail to capitalise on their pace. But I think they made the right choice though.

I feel we've lost the Rosberg of 2007 & 2008. Maybe he's tired of Williams now. I'm tired of them personally... There's absolutely no feeling of competitivity from the team, just like they are present, but not really involved.

And it was yet another race which makes you really wonder WHY on earth are Piquet in Nakajima still in race seats??!

Replace 'em ASAP with respectively Grosjean & Kobayashi!

Shame the Trulli spin made so much casualities at the start. But it was th less dull Spanish GP for years at least.

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vyselegend wrote:Shame the Trulli spin made so much casualities at the start. But it was th less dull Spanish GP for years at least.
But was it Trulli's fault after all, or did Nico force him to go off track?
And yes, I agree, even though still quite boring, definitely the less dull Spanish GP since a looong time..
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andartop wrote:I thought Massa's problem was not with his car but the #$&%* refueling system in the pits..
This is what I understand watching Italian TV. They said that due to some kind of error they did not refuel him with what they intend to.

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Webber move against Alonso was really good. Apart from that, we've seen that DDDs are going against OWG " spirit ". We haven't seen any good overtaking, except Webber's one. Moreover, we've seen that it's almost impossible to overtake a car with KERS when you don't have it.

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andartop wrote: But was it Trulli's fault after all, or did Nico force him to go off track?
And yes, I agree, even though still quite boring, definitely the less dull Spanish GP since a looong time..
Rosberg ran wide, rejoined and forced Trulli onto the sandy verge, that made him spin up the rears, loose it and then crash. Racing incident.
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"Alonso vs Webber was absolutley immense!" How right Brundell was with that statement. Best move of the season so far imho =D> =D> =D> =D>
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I didn't mean to put blame on Rosberg, I just did not think it was Trulli who initiated the whole incident.
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freedom_honda wrote:Interesting that Jenson just said on the press conference the team thought three-stop is quicker than the two stop so looks like Brawn did put Rubens on an optimal strategy. Just that Rubens wasn't able to make it work.
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
If this is so can anyone explain me why Barrichello came in for his second pit stop at least 6 laps earlier than he should to ?

Here is a brief analysis of Barrichello's pit stop strategy
1st Pit stop at Lap 19
refueled for 18 laps

2nd Pit stop at Lap 31
he should have been refueled 6 laps later at Lap 37 . He also refueled for 18 laps . Barrichello was earning 0.8 sec a lap to Jenson , so 6 laps more time * 0,8 secs = 4.8 secs . When Barrichello finished his second stop he was 8 secs behind Jenson .

3rd pit stop at Lap 50
he should have been refueled at Lap 55 , so another 4 secs lost ,

In total more than 8.8 secs lost to Jenson because of strategy , plus Barrichello would have the harder compound for less laps during his last stint compared to Button .

Here is what i believe : Brawn team stole victory from Barrichello in favor of his teammate
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