2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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dialtone wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 05:28
selvam_e2002 wrote:we have to forgot this year wcc and wdc. It seems like,
driver making mistake,
team making mistake,
reliability issue.

Binnoto will be gone if it continues in 2023.

they need experienced driver. I don't think Lec or Sainz can win with ferrari for next few years.

If this tread continues like this they have to forgot the WDC and WCC till next rule change.
I think they just need better fans.
I am fan of ferrari when MCS drove from them. after 2007 WDC, they are not doing well. Even with good fan what they are going to get for their own mistake? It does not make any sense with respect to FAn base to win a race. It is all about team,car and driver not fan.

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Must be hard to be a Ferrari fan with everything happening but there are still positives to take away:
- Car is fast
- Sainz is getting better

The car is still at worst second fastest over a race distance. In qualifying it's the best car to have. I think the Ferrari has slight advantage in tire life too now. Just that reliability needs to be sorted.

Sainz did a fantastic race. For me he maybe even was the best driver this weekend. It's very unfortunate how his race got messed up but at least he is showing his talent again.

We are just a little over halfway in the season now. I could not care less which team wins but for those who really desire a Ferrari title... Don't give up hope.

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Gillian wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 10:51
Must be hard to be a Ferrari fan with everything happening but there are still positives to take away:
- Car is fast
- Sainz is getting better

The car is still at worst second fastest over a race distance. In qualifying it's the best car to have. I think the Ferrari has slight advantage in tire life too now. Just that reliability needs to be sorted.

Sainz did a fantastic race. For me he maybe even was the best driver this weekend. It's very unfortunate how his race got messed up but at least he is showing his talent again.

We are just a little over halfway in the season now. I could not care less which team wins but for those who really desire a Ferrari title... Don't give up hope.
From WDC perspective, we really need a miracle.. But we will encounter more penalties because of PU and every this race VER will be 1st, and from the back, at best you can be P5.

From WCC, yeah.. It's game on. Perez is slipping it seems, and Carlos is getting better. If we manage to get WCC that would be a good season.

But it's not over yet. If Verstappen could get SC in Abu Dhabi so can we something similar :D

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Honestly at this point between reliability, unforced crashes and stupid strategy calls like yesterday, it feels like Ferrari turned around and handed the championship to RB.

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The key question for Leclerc's error is - would it have happened if his engine and team didn't fail him 4 times in 10 races? He lost 76 point in those races, Max gained 17 - a swing of 93 points. He would have easily lead the standings and be much more comfortable than he is now. Would he feel the need to push as hard as he did? Would Max have crumbled first?

It doesn't matter in the end. Engine must be more reliable, team must work better and Charles needs more experience. Nothing that can't be sorted for next year. No driver on the grid is faster than Leclerc or Max, so no other driver should be in that car.
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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:28
No driver on the grid is faster than Leclerc or Max, so no other driver should be in that car.
On what basis :roll:
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.

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Great race by Sainz, awesome job.

But Ferrari ruined it again, three times! First with a 4.3 second pitstop, then unsafe release, then pitting him when he was on the podium.

Maybe his tires would not last and he might loose the podium, but 4th or 5th at worst were guaranteed with more than 20 second gap to the 6th, so I can´t see any sensible reason to pit him. Same result (5th) was guaranteed, and podium was difficult but possible. At the time he still was faster than Perez so he could have opened a gap and hope the tires will last

Ferrari again unable to assume any strategy risk, they look like rookies whose only purpose is not assuming any risk. That´s not the way to win a title if you don´t have a hugely dominant car, wich is not the case

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Andres125sx wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:36
Great race by Sainz, awesome job.

But Ferrari ruined it again, three times! First with a 4.3 second pitstop, then unsafe release, then pitting him when he was on the podium.

Maybe his tires would not last and he might loose the podium, but 4th or 5th at worst were guaranteed with more than 20 second gap to the 6th, so I can´t see any sensible reason to pit him. Same result (5th) was guaranteed, and podium was difficult but possible. At the time he still was faster than Perez so he could have opened a gap and hope the tires will last

Ferrari again unable to assume any strategy risk, they look like rookies whose only purpose is not assuming any risk. That´s not the way to win a title if you don´t have a hugely dominant car, wich is not the case
Sainz ran red light during that pitstop, so 5s penalty is on him. Quite possibly this snowballed into ferrari's further decision to pit him from P3 as he was always gonna get that 5s added to his race time. Ferrari probably wasn't concerned with deg at that point anymore, but rather with wear. It's known you can sometimes wear down these pirellis to canvas and then you're stuck with falling off the cliff at best and puncture at worst. Still seemed gamble worth taking in my opinion. Perez was never going to re-overtake sainz at that point and squabbling with russell would possibly give sainz those extra 5s he needed.

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xaero wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:33
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:28
No driver on the grid is faster than Leclerc or Max, so no other driver should be in that car.
On what basis :roll:
Reality. Based on how drivers perform.
Andres125sx wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:36
Great race by Sainz, awesome job.

But Ferrari ruined it again, three times! First with a 4.3 second pitstop, then unsafe release, then pitting him when he was on the podium.

Maybe his tires would not last and he might loose the podium, but 4th or 5th at worst were guaranteed with more than 20 second gap to the 6th, so I can´t see any sensible reason to pit him. Same result (5th) was guaranteed, and podium was difficult but possible. At the time he still was faster than Perez so he could have opened a gap and hope the tires will last

Ferrari again unable to assume any strategy risk, they look like rookies whose only purpose is not assuming any risk. That´s not the way to win a title if you don´t have a hugely dominant car, wich is not the case
I always thought the ridicule that Ferrari got was a bit too much. But now I wholly agreey. They're a bunch of clowns.
A definite improvement would be if they flipped a coin to decide one way or the other. At least that would be 50% correct.

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10 races left and Charles is a 2.5 (technically 3 races) deficit to max. That’s 3 whole races max can’t score any points to get back level for the fight.

Granted another penalty for components likely given the usage so far this season, that’s 4 races to draw level.

It looks a long steep road to climb
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:33
10 races left and Charles is a 2.5 (technically 3 races) deficit to max. That’s 3 whole races max can’t score any points to get back level for the fight.

Granted another penalty for components likely given the usage so far this season, that’s 4 races to draw level.

It looks a long steep road to climb
It’ll be hard to see the best car not winning the championship, but it’s not over yet.

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my 2 cents explanation on "Should Ferrari keep SAI "on the track after he passed PER
best case scenario have 2 conditions
a) Tryres would last until race end>>>> not sure
b)he can deliver same lap times
but lap times after lap 31/32 were getting slower that is a fact,
if he kept P3 he would not make a 5 seg gap required to keep pos 3
therefore the result would be 5 th w/o lap record (1 extra point)
Ferrari will always look after ferrari , not after Drivers
look at the driver history (only exception MS)
prost / mansell /alonso / vettel
from marketing point of view
Ferrari needs a driver " drive ferraris"
RB needs a Hero "drinks what the hero drinks"

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A lot of points were lost because of the engines. In addition to losing points on the day of retirement, points are lost in the race due to substitution penalties, as was the case yesterday with Carlos and Charles earlier. Or Leclerc's crash takes away not only points from Charles himself, but also the ability of Sainz to recover from a penalty due to retirement in Austria (forced change of hard tires on lap 18, which destroys strategic plans to squeeze the maximum benefit from hards).
As for me, this year can already be written off and focused on improving the strategy, training mechanics for even better pit stops and engine reliability, as well as introducing initially good aerodynamic solutions. For example, why did you have to wait so long for the rear wing with fix the loss of speed on the straights, instead of having this wing configuration done before the start of the season?

2020-2021 was devoted to fixing weaknesses, and it was done very well. A good correlation between the factory and the track allows us to hope that by 2023 the car will be even better, eliminating the causes of engine failure, we can hope for titles. And, a little more time for the CFD and the wind tunnel for second (3d?) place in the 2022 WCC :(

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mzso wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 13:58
xaero wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:33
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 12:28
No driver on the grid is faster than Leclerc or Max, so no other driver should be in that car.
On what basis :roll:
Reality. Based on how drivers perform.
Reality is relative :). Enjoy your reality. Signing-off.
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.