2022 Alpine F1 Team

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SmallSoldier wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 02:04
=D>

That's how you do an announcement! Such photographs and quotes were missing from the Piastri announcement.

diffuser wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 04:25
I can imagine a press conference by Andres125sx if he was head of Alpine...It would go something like this..."We're never gonna win, not sure why we even bother, should have become a sculptor! Please let me leave so I can go home and slit my wrists!"
That's in poor taste.

Where was the investment to outspend Red Bull/Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari for Renault to win at any cost circa 2017, 2018, 2019?

As long ago as 2017, the Renault was not the most powerful power unit, yet even 5 seasons later it still doesn't seem to be the most powerful power unit.

AR3-GP wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 16:35
1) Why is it that Renault have been pared down to only 1 engine supply?
Exactly, if Viry produced the most powerful, most reliable and best packaged power unit in F1 then customers like McLaren Racing and Red Bull Racing would be very happy to stick with the Renault product.

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New floor working well around here it seems- you’d expect the two Alpines to have a realistic chance of bringing home P5 and P6 tomorrow, and Alonso in mixed conditions may even pinch 4th!

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JordanMugen wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 12:33
SmallSoldier wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 02:04
=D>

That's how you do an announcement! Such photographs and quotes were missing from the Piastri announcement.

diffuser wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 04:25
I can imagine a press conference by Andres125sx if he was head of Alpine...It would go something like this..."We're never gonna win, not sure why we even bother, should have become a sculptor! Please let me leave so I can go home and slit my wrists!"
That's in poor taste.

Where was the investment to outspend Red Bull/Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari for Renault to win at any cost circa 2017, 2018, 2019?

As long ago as 2017, the Renault was not the most powerful power unit, yet even 5 seasons later it still doesn't seem to be the most powerful power unit.

AR3-GP wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 16:35
1) Why is it that Renault have been pared down to only 1 engine supply?
Exactly, if Viry produced the most powerful, most reliable and best packaged power unit in F1 then customers like McLaren Racing and Red Bull Racing would be very happy to stick with the Renault product.
I don't need any of you to explain the history, I've seen it all as well. This isn't the end of 2006 and they haven't decided to let Alonso leave cause they can't make the investment into F1.

Alonso is leaving cause of a new management team that is growing too fast and they screwed up. The engineering team that has been assembled at Alpine has put together a good car. I only see that car getting better in the next years.

I probably will not be following them closely next year cause I'll be over at AMR with my man. If all you can do is come in here and shiit all over them(Andre), then what's the point.

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FORMULA 1

The news is out - Pierre Gasly will be an Alpine F1 Team driver from 2023!
Lawrence Barretto chats to the Frenchman as he embarks on the next chapter of his career. (13:15 min)
The Power of Dreams!

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Mansell89 wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 13:02
New floor working well around here it seems- you’d expect the two Alpines to have a realistic chance of bringing home P5 and P6 tomorrow, and Alonso in mixed conditions may even pinch 4th!
Yep I think the new floor has allowed them to run a smaller rear wing than usual.
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Not ideal strategy, late 2nd pitstop.
But at least Alonso saw that Aston Martin can be not a tractor

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Kamel wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 14:02
Not ideal strategy, late 2nd pitstop.
But at least Alonso saw that Aston Martin can be not a tractor
Change the tires 1 lap earlier and they would have made it.

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diffuser wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 17:25
Kamel wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 14:02
Not ideal strategy, late 2nd pitstop.
But at least Alonso saw that Aston Martin can be not a tractor
Change the tires 1 lap earlier and they would have made it.
Yeah both Alo pitstop were late. Late onto first inters and late onto new inters. So much missed opportunity. But good result for the team
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They could've double stopped like Red Bull. That extra lap put him behind Seb.

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I bet they will be 5th in standing after this year. because they are trying to cover Ocon all the time. It does not help them to keep 4th position.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 12:11
I bet they will be 5th in standing after this year. because they are trying to cover Ocon all the time. It does not help them to keep 4th position.
Lead car always get first choice at tires and double stacking has high risks for obvious reasons.

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Alonso Fan wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 21:49
diffuser wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 17:25
Kamel wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 14:02
Not ideal strategy, late 2nd pitstop.
But at least Alonso saw that Aston Martin can be not a tractor
Change the tires 1 lap earlier and they would have made it.
Yeah both Alo pitstop were late. Late onto first inters and late onto new inters. So much missed opportunity. But good result for the team

After thinking about this a bit, adding to the complexity of the tire change strategy was, they did not know how many laps were left. In other words, when they pulled the trigger on changing the tires, they might have thought they would have had one or two more laps than they got.

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diffuser wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 13:16
selvam_e2002 wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 12:11
I bet they will be 5th in standing after this year. because they are trying to cover Ocon all the time. It does not help them to keep 4th position.
Lead car always get first choice at tires and double stacking has high risks for obvious reasons.
Double stacking must be part of a team's repertoire.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Oct 2022, 22:09
diffuser wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 13:16
selvam_e2002 wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 12:11
I bet they will be 5th in standing after this year. because they are trying to cover Ocon all the time. It does not help them to keep 4th position.
Lead car always get first choice at tires and double stacking has high risks for obvious reasons.
Double stacking must be part of a team's repertoire.
I've never seen Alpine do a double stack. I also remember when Merc put two of Russel's tires on Bottas's car. Obviously the closer together the teams cars are running, the harder it is to execute.

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diffuser wrote:
11 Oct 2022, 23:14
AR3-GP wrote:
11 Oct 2022, 22:09
diffuser wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 13:16


Lead car always get first choice at tires and double stacking has high risks for obvious reasons.
Double stacking must be part of a team's repertoire.
I've never seen Alpine do a double stack. I also remember when Merc put two of Russel's tires on Bottas's car. Obviously the closer together the teams cars are running, the harder it is to execute.
Red Bull executed one just fine in Monaco and Japan.

We can't just say a team shouldn't know how to double stack and excuse it.

Also, for what it's worth, I don't think Alpine's issue was they don't know how to double stack or that they considered it "risky". It's more likely they wanted to split the cars in case of a safety car or VSC coming out. It would have jumped Alonso far up the queue had it happened.
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