wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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Shrek
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wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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what would happen if you would put a/2 wing profiles or spoilers on the rim shields:more downforce and drag
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Scotracer
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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They are not allowed by the regulations. It would, if they were allowed.
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Shrek
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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guess how i got the idea from, a fan in the concession stand
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tommylommykins
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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Can I ask how these things are allowed?

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(Image ungraciously stolen from one of bar-555's posts in the brawn aero development thread)

Those fins look to be directly attatched to the wheel hub, and you can hardly say they don't contribute to downforce....

Scotracer
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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What the regulations state is that you cannot have aerodynamic devices on suspension components (I'm guessing wheel hubs don't count). Another regulatory stipulation is no movable aerodynamic pieces (apart from the front wing flaps) so the Brawn ones don't contravene either.
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RacingManiac
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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Same rule that allows the rim shield in the first place. They are technically part of the "brake ducts" attached to the upright....The rule basically draw these boxes in the wheel area that defines the "brake duct" zone. Anything within that space(and I believe you can't protrude past the diameter of the tires or something) are supposed to be fair game. Ferrari I believe was the first to put winglet/flip-up on the inboard side of the front wheel, and obviously the first to use the rim shield. This season with the durastic cut and reduce width of rear wing all those flip-up appears to compensate for the loss....

Agerasia
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Re: wing profile(s)/spoiler on rim shields

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Scotracer wrote:What the regulations state is that you cannot have aerodynamic devices on suspension components (I'm guessing wheel hubs don't count). Another regulatory stipulation is no movable aerodynamic pieces (apart from the front wing flaps) so the Brawn ones don't contravene either.
Huh! How do they get away with making the suspension arms aerofoil then?
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