2023 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 31 - April 02

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Spacepace wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:33
Wasn't the track temp at Hungaroring low last year as well? Don't know if that correlates with Mercedes being strong today comparatively to other teams but it does seem that way
It’s strange, because they have trouble switching the tires on for a single lap.

They’ve always been strong in Hungary in recent years.

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zibby43 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:36
Spacepace wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:33
Wasn't the track temp at Hungaroring low last year as well? Don't know if that correlates with Mercedes being strong today comparatively to other teams but it does seem that way
It’s strange, because they have trouble switching the tires on for a single lap.

They’ve always been strong in Hungary in recent years.
Maybe the fact that every team was struggling to bring the temperature up somewhat squashed that disadvantage

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The grid is a Red Bull sandwich.

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Red Bull is doing a great job of making Mercedes believe their current concept is a better one and not to copy Red Bull. :D

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This will surely fuel the desire for tire warmer ban.

That was a very unpredictable session, but Verstappen found a lap that I didn't think he would find considering the mess of a strategy they were on with the tire prep and very late second run.
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:45
This will surely fuel the desire for tire warmer ban.

That was a very unpredictable session, but Verstappen found a lap that I didn't think he would find considering the mess of a strategy they were on with the tire prep and very late second run.
Never even thought about the tire warmer aspect of this. This session really was a great advert for a rule change

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Any idea why there is a power drop on the 8th to 10th corner for Max?

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zibby43 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:36
Spacepace wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:33
Wasn't the track temp at Hungaroring low last year as well? Don't know if that correlates with Mercedes being strong today comparatively to other teams but it does seem that way
It’s strange, because they have trouble switching the tires on for a single lap.

They’ve always been strong in Hungary in recent years.
Low track temps, smooth tarmac, medium to high DF level track and ... running much lower the car, after the trials they did in FP1 when HAM reported bouncing/bottoming and was sparking all over the place :mrgreen:

According to the top speeds, it seems that VER set his car just for the race and both W14 cars more towards the qualy, presumably ...

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It`ll be interesting in the race to see that almost all the cars bar RB19 were doing multiple warm-up laps to get into the optimal tyre window, thus it could be a maybe one-stop M-H strategy tomorrow for some drivers like ALO, STR and maybe both Ferrari drivers...

VER will do an easy S-M tyre race tomorrow after showing low deg both FP1 and FP2 but the question mark will be reliability, that`s why they seem to be running all weekend in kinda safe mode all the sessions and even qualy ... or maybe they have low grip due to low track temp, as he told on the media :D

The real dark horse is the W14 car, which in FP2 was setting some constant and interesting laps when they did their race simulation laps on the hard tyre ... so it could be a one-stop S-H tyre race for them tomorrow ...
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mendis wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:55
Any idea why there is a power drop on the 8th to 10th corner for Max?
There is no power drop. The throttle trace show's that he lifted (corner 9-10).

If you are referring to the bump in the speed trace before T9...well that's the RB DRS system, launching Max into orbit :shock:
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 09:06
mendis wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:55
Any idea why there is a power drop on the 8th to 10th corner for Max?
There is no power drop. The throttle trace show's that he lifted (corner 9-10).

If you are referring to the bump in the speed trace before T9...well that's the RB DRS system, launching Max into orbit :shock:
Sorry, it's not 8 to 10th, I meant 6th to 8th corner, which is just a straight. You see there is a drop and I don't see any lift on throttle.

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mendis wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 09:08
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 09:06
mendis wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:55
Any idea why there is a power drop on the 8th to 10th corner for Max?
There is no power drop. The throttle trace show's that he lifted (corner 9-10).

If you are referring to the bump in the speed trace before T9...well that's the RB DRS system, launching Max into orbit :shock:
Sorry, it's not 8 to 10th, I meant 6th to 8th corner, which is just a straight. You see there is a drop and I don't see any lift on throttle.
Oh okay I see. edit: I don't know. Maybe Merc has different deployment.
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Downshift and battery issues for Max, still pole position.
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Silent Storm wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 09:20
Downshift and battery issues for Max, still pole position.
I checked the telemetry and Max definitely did not have full power on his last run. I compared an early run from Q1 (white line) to his Q3 lap (blue line) and you can see that he lost power in Q3. Down 3-4km/h on the main straight, and down 3-4 km/h on the run to Turn 9, and the run to T11. :? The lap was saved because he was just so much quicker in the corners, and even then didn't manage to have a higher top speed because of the deployment problem.

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Silent Storm wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 09:20
Downshift and battery issues for Max, still pole position.
Does max ever have a quali or race without some sort of issue? He’s beginning to sound like Hamilton and his tyre woes