2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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Re: 2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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Juzh wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:36
Verstappen dropping 2s a lap. problem or cruising?
Overheating I think

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DiogoBrand wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:38
Not to mention Hamilton getting only 5s for basically ruining a points finish from Piastri.
5s is the norm now for DNFing an opponent. Remember Rus sailing into Sai in cota last year, same story.

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Thank you Ferrari! Actual racing :lol:
Brilliant show by those 2 lads and the team

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Really bad driving there from Lewis. He took Oscar's point finish. That's such a shame.

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New recrod. Ten wins in succession.
It might be 18 wins at the end of the season.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:40
As much as I rate him highly Oscar was foolish there with Lewis. He should have yielded! Being on the outside of turn 6 will only end in tears!
Yes it was obviously foolish to give Lewis all the space he could and force Lewis to run him over. Oscar should get a penalty for this.

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Reeeeeally wish it was Lando and not Piastri that got screwed there

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:40
As much as I rate him highly Oscar was foolish there with Lewis. He should have yielded! Being on the outside of turn 6 will only end in tears!
Yielded what? He was alongside all the way, there was nothing to yield. Hamilton closed the door and got extremely lucky he didn't cause a monumental crash in the process. He did the same with Alonso in spa last year and he also has completely identical incident with kobayashi in spa 2011. Dude think he owns the road as soon as he's 10 cm (or behind in his case). Farcical to blame piastri for this, but expected from you.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:40
As much as I rate him highly Oscar was foolish there with Lewis. He should have yielded! Being on the outside of turn 6 will only end in tears!
Pull the other one. He’s in the braking zone going in a straight line! You honestly cannot say that with a straight face!!

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Entrance to Roggia narrows like a funnel that’s why these incidents occur. The car on the outside is always drifting left slightly.

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ringo wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 00:58
search wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 21:59
the long runs were a bit hard to read this weekend, but if at all, Ferrari also looked like the quicker team in that regard.

I'd still expect Verstappen to be able to up his game tomorrow and win as well, don't get me wrong, but so far there's no real indication that Ferrari will be as bad as some seem to expect.
At this stage in the season, you cannot downplay the redbull. It will be in a different category on Sunday. This race is between Max and Perez.
Oh what do you know! Who couls have predicted this!!! :mrgreen:

Great race. Loved it. This is what f1 should be. Not too many overtakes and hard fighting and stopwatch increments.
Well done by Max at the early stages but it was easy for him apart from the ferrari top speed. But he just had to wait. Same with perez, a waiting game till tyre deg sets in.
Perez could be driver of the race for me or sainz.
A raise eye brow for leclerc. Ver desperate in the end!
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Re: 2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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Juzh wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:42
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:40
As much as I rate him highly Oscar was foolish there with Lewis. He should have yielded! Being on the outside of turn 6 will only end in tears!
Yielded what? He was alongside all the way, there was nothing to yield. Hamilton closed the door and got extremely lucky he didn't cause a monumental crash in the process. He did the same with Alonso in spa last year and he also has completely identical incident with kobayashi in spa 2011. Dude think he owns the road as soon as he's 10 cm (or behind in his case). Farcical to blame piastri for this, but expected from you.
Anti ham boy bringing up every racing incident he had during his career

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Mogster wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:44
Entrance to Roggia narrows like a funnel that’s why these incidents occur.
The outside is a straight line…. Which is what PIA was braking along. It cannot be him at fault at all. If he had moved left in the braking zone then I’d agree with you and it would have been a bit foolish but he didn’t. That was a bone headed move that actually paid off incredibly

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Oscar was going to lose the position inevitably. I'm surprised he didn't yeild and focus on getting getting Norris and Albon. Hamilton was not in his race.

Anyway strong drives by the Mercedes boys. We never had the speed but it's a good points haul on Aston Martin.
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Charles did the same to Lewis 2019 but Lewis went in the gras, avoiding it, no penalty. Sainz did the same two times this race, no penalty because the Red Bulls avoided. Piastri didn’t yield, penalty. Make of that what you will. Position was gone, yielding would’ve been the sensible choice. Guess he was still pissed McLaren undercut him with Lando. Not to mention he ran of Lewis one lap earlier…