2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

[Sevach]

Perez misses open goal, only needs a lap within 0,5s of Ver, but no ahahahaha, wtf dude, 7 tenths off whole weekend, are u ok?

Perez is just doing the job and collecting money at this stage. I would do the same. Makes no sense hw tries any harder. It's Max's team and even if Perez came within 2 tenths each race he still wont beat him over a season.

Mclaren is clearly 2nd best. They are on the right track for 2024. I am surprised no one is raising alarms on how much Piastri is challenging Norris this year.

I'm sure Mclaren will undercut Norris in front somehow...
Or maybe now that Piatri is a long term deal that changes.

Tyre sets left for the race:

https://i.imgur.com/Z67qVYA.png

Mercedes and Mclaren betting on 2 hard stints, Ferrari and RBR on 2 medium stints(Verstappen with tires to spare).

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Perez is just doing the job and collecting money at this stage. I would do the same. Makes no sense hw tries any harder. It's Max's team and even if Perez came within 2 tenths each race he still wont beat him over a season.

Mclaren is clearly 2nd best. They are on the right track for 2024. I am surprised no one is raising alarms on how much Piastri is challenging Norris this year.

Why would you raise an alarm for that, a great talent that has come through. That is what F2 is for, we need guys like this coming in to F1. Mclaren already extended him, it’s the perfect place for him right now.

No wonder Norris wants to go to rbr. Better to be beaten by max than being beaten by a rookie.
Peter Windsor has been “sounding the alarms” on piastri for a long time. I didn’t believe him before but now I do.

Shouldn't need any alarms sounded really... he won f3 as a rookie and then was dominant again as a rookie in F2 similar to Russell/Leclerc with a fairly competitive field. It doesn't take a genius to work out that he's a Russell/Leclerc/Norris level talent with the same sort of junior career.

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years in qualifying, but that could be now that Ricciardo isn't there, the weaker performances are simply more obvious (similar to how Russell exaggerates Hamilton's fluctuations)

[Evo2racer]

What will be the penalty for Leclerc ?

3 place grid penalty ?

[dialtone]

What will be the penalty for Leclerc ?

3 place grid penalty ?

He let by 7 or 8 cars. Lost an eternity before T1 to let by Perez who was on a fast lap to not impede him in the esses.

Chances that he'll be penalized are low, but it's Ferrari so likely life ban.

[Sieper]

What will be the penalty for Leclerc ?

3 place grid penalty ?

He let by 7 or 8 cars. Lost an eternity before T1 to let by Perez who was on a fast lap to not impede him in the esses.

Chances that he'll be penalized are low, but it's Ferrari so likely life ban.

Haha, not funny. If he lost time letting people by that is completely defendable and he will be fine.

[atanatizante]

Based on the above delta times gains between Q1 and Q3 but most of all due to S1 times or should I say how much the cars were set with some understeer in order to protect the rear tyres, could we predict/guess who`s gonna be on a 2-stop and who on a 3-stop race tomorrow? Not to mention which tyres the teams spared for the race ...

[Aesop]

Can we conclude that AM suffers from the TD now?
Very good to see McLaren on the front row. Great performance from Piastri. Still, no need to worry about Norris. Piastri is not yet outperforming him, he is matching him occasionally, only acception being Spa. But it will be very interesting to see how it develops the rest of the season and especially next year. I wouldn't place my bet yet though

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What will be the penalty for Leclerc ?

3 place grid penalty ?

He let by 7 or 8 cars. Lost an eternity before T1 to let by Perez who was on a fast lap to not impede him in the esses.

Chances that he'll be penalized are low, but it's Ferrari so likely life ban.

Haha, not funny. If he lost time letting people by that is completely defendable and he will be fine.

even if not, the penalty for this is a reprimand only, so there's nothing to worry about. Leclerc sits at zero, as far as I can see.

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No further action on the lec/Bottas/Zhou thing

[GrizzleBoy]

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Based on the above delta times gains between Q1 and Q3 but most of all due to S1 times or should I say how much the cars were set with some understeer in order to protect the rear tyres, could we predict/guess who`s gonna be on a 2-stop and who on a 3-stop race tomorrow? Not to mention which tyres the teams spared for the race ...

The heck are those low Ferrari speed trap numbers? Got lots of downforce on to protect tyres for the race?

McLarens have excellent speed trap numbers. If Ferrari actually are faster in race trim, their top speeds might make it harder to pass still. And tracks like Canada and Monza have shown that massive long straights aren't always enough to pass easily anymore.

[Juzh]

http://postimg.cc/nXyhDrp3
http://postimg.cc/PNXrZBnn

Based on the above delta times gains between Q1 and Q3 but most of all due to S1 times or should I say how much the cars were set with some understeer in order to protect the rear tyres, could we predict/guess who`s gonna be on a 2-stop and who on a 3-stop race tomorrow? Not to mention which tyres the teams spared for the race ...

The heck are those low Ferrari speed trap numbers? Got lots of downforce on to protect tyres for the race?

McLarens have excellent speed trap numbers. If Ferrari actually are faster in race trim, their top speeds might make it harder to pass still. And tracks like Canada and Monza have shown that massive long straights aren't always enough to pass easily anymore.

Those numbers are from their last lap on track (in-lap), not their best numbers.

[Juzh]

Actual speed trap data

[Artur Craft]

This qualy resembled this one:

[f1onions]

Verstappen was just outrageously good through the first three corners of the esses. His minimum speed in turn 4 was 236 kph, even faster than 2019.

[Juzh]

Barely 4 tenths faster than last year. Those floor reg changes really did a number on cars.