2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

Just sign Hulkenberg and be done with it. I'm not listening to counter arguments

[trinidefender]

I think the final 5s penalty was for impeding Norris

Ah.

Considering what Norris got an unsportsmanlike penalty for this season then this must be worse.

Whether he is considered "retired" or not he could at the very least get grid penalties for that.

Timing screens put him up as +26 laps when he rejoined, so not retired until race is completely over.

Did they actually send him back out on track?

[chrisc90]

Surely checo must have some performance clause in his contract they can use.
He literally is in the fastest car and wants to make rush overtakes. Half a lap or a lap isn’t going to make a huge difference to the overall race on lap 2-5 or whatever his rampage went on.

[Juzh]

Ah.

Considering what Norris got an unsportsmanlike penalty for this season then this must be worse.

Whether he is considered "retired" or not he could at the very least get grid penalties for that.

Timing screens put him up as +26 laps when he rejoined, so not retired until race is completely over.

Did they actually send him back out on track?

Well yes, of course, to serve those penalties in pitlane. You didn't watch the race

[chrisc90]

I think it was wise to send him out to serve the penalties - As it means that there wont be a grid drop for the next race. Again - RB know the rulebook VERY well and make advantage of doing so.

I do imagine it will be a loophole that will be closed however

[trinidefender]

Timing screens put him up as +26 laps when he rejoined, so not retired until race is completely over.

Did they actually send him back out on track?

Well yes, of course, to serve those penalties in pitlane. You didn't watch the race

Some of it. Wasn't able to watch all.

I missed the incident of Perez holding up Norris and him going back out on track.

For those that saw it. Did what he did to Norris look intentional or was it a case of confusion on track?

[Juzh]

Did they actually send him back out on track?

Well yes, of course, to serve those penalties in pitlane. You didn't watch the race

Some of it. Wasn't able to watch all.

I missed the incident of Perez holding up Norris and him going back out on track.

For those that saw it. Did what he did to Norris look intentional or was it a case of confusion on track?

Perez had broken right steering rod and was going very slow. Norris didn't want to overtake him initially as it was still VSC, then perez really slowed down to make it obvious he's letting him go, but because he wasn't able to steer properly in left handers he just went straight in spoon and almost took norris out.

[Cassius]

I think it was wise to send him out to serve the penalties - As it means that there wont be a grid drop for the next race. Again - RB know the rulebook VERY well and make advantage of doing so.

I do imagine it will be a loophole that will be closed however

I don't think it will and should be closed. Every team should have the right to try to fix a car and get out again. Would be unfair if you can not serve your penalty because you were a few laps in the pit.

[Sieper]

I think it was wise to send him out to serve the penalties - As it means that there wont be a grid drop for the next race. Again - RB know the rulebook VERY well and make advantage of doing so.

I do imagine it will be a loophole that will be closed however

Imho that is not a loophole. If you can’t serve your penalty in this race, then it is a grid drop in the next. But Checo could serve it.

I do have a question, it showed Checo was 6 laps behind, but wasn’t it much more? Is that somekind of limit? Or am I just mistaken and was it “only” 6 laps.

[tinuva]

I think it was wise to send him out to serve the penalties - As it means that there wont be a grid drop for the next race. Again - RB know the rulebook VERY well and make advantage of doing so.

I do imagine it will be a loophole that will be closed however

Imho that is not a loophole. If you can’t serve your penalty in this race, then it is a grid drop in the next. But Checo could serve it.

I do have a question, it showed Checo was 6 laps behind, but wasn’t it much more? Is that somekind of limit? Or am I just mistaken and was it “only” 6 laps.

Behind the person above him, which was stroll that dnf 6 laps after Perez initial dnf

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[Wouter]

[Sieper]

I think it was wise to send him out to serve the penalties - As it means that there wont be a grid drop for the next race. Again - RB know the rulebook VERY well and make advantage of doing so.

I do imagine it will be a loophole that will be closed however

Imho that is not a loophole. If you can’t serve your penalty in this race, then it is a grid drop in the next. But Checo could serve it.

I do have a question, it showed Checo was 6 laps behind, but wasn’t it much more? Is that somekind of limit? Or am I just mistaken and was it “only” 6 laps.

Behind the person above him, which was stroll that dnf 6 laps after Perez initial dnf

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Thank you

[Rikhart]

Surely checo must have some performance clause in his contract they can use.
He literally is in the fastest car and wants to make rush overtakes. Half a lap or a lap isn’t going to make a huge difference to the overall race on lap 2-5 or whatever his rampage went on.

THe damage he has done to the team by consistently revealing their floor designs alone would make it grounds to fire him, imo. The piss poor performance he's been having would just be the final nail in the coffin.

It's been laughable, absolutely laughable, I think even a Bottas would be providing more to the team.

[chrisc90]

Any driver deserves the support from their team - but ive simply no idea why RB are holding onto him. They could graft someone in on a years contract and try and get Norris for 2025 if thats their main aim.
Checo is holding onto P2 in the title by the skin of his teeth - im not even sure he deserves P2 to be fair.
Be interesting to look at the points graph with him and others - especially in the second 2/3 of the season.

[Sieper]

Max winning despite a redbull double DNF.