2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[organic]

Highly doubt any upgrades but a track specific cooling update for Mexico

[Paa]

If they won at Singapore and still would have the chance to win them all, then I could see a chance for one more upgrade.
But after losing Singapore and securing both WCs, there is zero reason for them to introduce any upgrades.

Probably they won't even manufacture new parts (of old specification) unless they absolutely have to and will just wear down the already made parts until the season end.
Probably this is the reason why they couldn't fully re-build Checo's car after the sprint.

I wouldn't even be surprised if theyfit some earlier spec parts at the car for the last races.

[TFSA]

If they won at Singapore and still would have the chance to win them all, then I could see a chance for one more upgrade.
But after losing Singapore and securing both WCs, there is zero reason for them to introduce any upgrades.

Yes there is: Track testing. Wind tunnel and CFD isn't perfect, and - in the case of Red Bull - limited more than the other teams.

[organic]

Eagerly awaiting the next Helmut interview/quote in the German media.. which may not come if Horner has tactfully put him straight on the private jet out

[AR3-GP]

I'm not sure how to explain it, but lap 16 says it all. Out of nowhere, Max just goes 1 second faster than any lap before and, then pits. In this same stint, Max was lapping as fast as the Mclarens while being on much older mediums.

Max never had a single track limit violation. I'm not sure what they were playing at, or what they were managing later on, but Max never complained about the car once and seemed to want to do as little as possible to win the race. If you will recall, GP was angry about Max destroying the front left tire in the sprint race. From there, Max never really bothered in any high speed corner during the GP except for lap 16.

Maybe this is all wrong though and it was really dire straits at the end. It sure didn't sound like it then. Max never complained about the car or exceeded track limits.

[ME4ME]

It's the perfect race isn't it?
Win by the lowest margin needed. Quick lap before the pit stop to extract the most from the tyres and mess with rivals undercut calculations. Cruise to avoid penalties, to avoid tyre failures, to avoid stressing the hardware, to avoid the driver collapsing.

[basti313]

It's the perfect race isn't it?
Win by the lowest margin needed. Quick lap before the pit stop to extract the most from the tyres and mess with rivals undercut calculations. Cruise to avoid penalties, to avoid tyre failures, to avoid stressing the hardware, to avoid the driver collapsing.

Even more. I think the inlap was faster than the outlap of the McL. That somehow turns it upside down to anything we saw with Pirelli tires so far...maybe except some Monaco race...but on a normal track?

[Xyz22]

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I'm not sure how to explain it, but lap 16 says it all. Out of nowhere, Max just goes 1 second faster than any lap before and, then pits. In this same stint, Max was lapping as fast as the Mclarens while being on much older mediums.

Max never had a single track limit violation. I'm not sure what they were playing at, or what they were managing later on, but Max never complained about the car once and seemed to want to do as little as possible to win the race. If you will recall, GP was angry about Max destroying the front left tire in the sprint race. From there, Max never really bothered in any high speed corner during the GP except for lap 16.

Maybe this is all wrong though and it was really dire straits at the end. It sure didn't sound like it then. Max never complained about the car or exceeded track limits.

RB, in race trim, is still in another league. Also they couldn't even use their best "weapon" which is the extremely low tyre deg, due to the special rules issued by the FIA for the race.

[DDopey]

The way McLaren are performing the situation with Perez becomes problematic for 2024. The WCC will become at risk. They need to find a solution as both McLaren drivers are scoring the points.

[Sevach]

Perez is getting cooked fast, does his contract holds an exit option(on RBR end)?
Ricciardo or Tsunoda gets the nod?

[Sevach]

RB, in race trim, is still in another league. Also they couldn't even use their best "weapon" which is the extremely low tyre deg, due to the special rules issued by the FIA for the race.

RB didn't even feel the need to maximize race time and respond to others, just extended each stint to the maximum allowed, to give Max the best FL chance and have super fresh tires in the case of a SC.
The gap at the end isn't real.

[Xyz22]

RB, in race trim, is still in another league. Also they couldn't even use their best "weapon" which is the extremely low tyre deg, due to the special rules issued by the FIA for the race.

RB didn't even feel the need to maximize race time and respond to others, just extended each stint to the maximum allowed, to give Max the best FL chance and have super fresh tires in the case of a SC.
The gap at the end isn't real.

Oh absolutely. I think with Norris in P2 the race would have been a bit different, but RB is still the quickest car in race trim. At the same time McL did a mega mega jump to be that close.

[Oleo]

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I'm not sure how to explain it, but lap 16 says it all. Out of nowhere, Max just goes 1 second faster than any lap before and, then pits. In this same stint, Max was lapping as fast as the Mclarens while being on much older mediums.

Max never had a single track limit violation. I'm not sure what they were playing at, or what they were managing later on, but Max never complained about the car once and seemed to want to do as little as possible to win the race. If you will recall, GP was angry about Max destroying the front left tire in the sprint race. From there, Max never really bothered in any high speed corner during the GP except for lap 16.

Maybe this is all wrong though and it was really dire straits at the end. It sure didn't sound like it then. Max never complained about the car or exceeded track limits.

Piastri ended up behind Lawson and Magnussen coming out of the pit at the start of lap 13, passed Magnussen in lap 15(?), so VER probably was faster for 2 laps, because PIA was stuck for 2 laps. So RB werent worried about an undercut. Then the lap before pitting they could use the remaining tyrelife so they went quicker.
But I dont think he was going maximum pace, definately managing gap compared to McLaren.

[AR3-GP]

Still, the Mclaren team taking the fastest pitstop record away from RB, combined with their resurgence, seems like a turning point in both literal and metaphorical terms...The RB20 will have to be mighty. Mclaren will be trouble soon enough.

[Sieper]

In this race tire wear didn’t count.

Normally it does.

Mclaren is doing a fine job, went for 2 great drivers, are operationally there, as shown by their super pitstops. But I still expect Merc to be the main challenger. They switched concepts and can now make the further changes over the winter. If Mclaren can, so can the mothership.