2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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yooogurt wrote:
15 Nov 2024, 19:27
lio007 wrote:
15 Nov 2024, 17:17
Not good for Ferrari? Why do you think so?
I think there's a deeper partnership there than it looks from the outside, with benefits for both sides, not as much as Red Bull, but still better than nothing.
I don't think so. There are for sure contractual clauses in place to avoid that. (As Fred Vasseur mentioned). And as engineers change teams every now and then it would be an open secret if IP is transferred.

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lio007 wrote:
15 Nov 2024, 20:33
I don't think so. There are for sure contractual clauses in place to avoid that. (As Fred Vasseur mentioned). And as engineers change teams every now and then it would be an open secret if IP is transferred.
Within the budget cap, such cooperation is maximally profitable that would have more money for development than the competitors, actually because of this Ferrari created aero department for Haas at the base in Maranello. And it involves high level engineers who are not so subject to turnover. I would be maximally surprised if it turned out that Ferrari and especially RB having such an opportunity do not use it. I don't know exactly what kind of co-op, but it should definitely exist
Yes, and in formula 1 a lot of things are not allowed, but teams constantly or violate that fia does not know or bypassed by engineering.
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Ferrari will only reveal their 2025 livery at the official F1 event next year. The car will be announced separately in Italy, as usual.

https://x.com/MuseiFerrari/status/1857455148869587089

I'm very happy about this - Ferrari's car reveals are always spectacular, it would have been a shame to lose it to the FIA!

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Track temperature for Q and race will probably be around 10c if the weather prediction holds so a little warmer than last year..

This car really likes 45c+ but at least they’ve had 3 weeks to mess with set up etc.

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Zhou takes his passport and money to Ferrari, and we may see Zhou making a few laps at FP1 Shanghai GP.

https://x.com/formularacers_/status/185 ... 1oNCg&s=19

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Oh what a lucky guy .. lifetime experience here for Leclerc


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bluechris wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 09:20
Oh what a lucky guy .. lifetime experience here for Leclerc

He is not lucky, he is RICH.

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Fer.Fan wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 12:45
bluechris wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 09:20
Oh what a lucky guy .. lifetime experience here for Leclerc

He is not lucky, he is RICH.
Well there are many reach people and none got this privilege.

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Fer.Fan wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 12:45
bluechris wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 09:20
Oh what a lucky guy .. lifetime experience here for Leclerc

He is not lucky, he is RICH.
He was invited by Canal+

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It's quite funny to call Leclerc of all people privileged, given his lack of wealth as a kid compared to some other drivers and the sheer amount of tragedy he endured on his way to F1.

I think we should let him have his fun without being judgmental! If I suddenly became rich in my 20s I would also do some crazy ---. :lol:

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Fer.Fan wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 12:45
He is not lucky, he is RICH.
Nothing to do with money, to even get into an airbase you need to recieve an approval of MOD officials. To get flown ina fighter jet in such a high-publicity stunt, approval probably goes all the way up to the top of the MOD. My guess, it was a promotional stunt of French Air Force and Leclerc simply has a bigger audience than either Ocon or Gasly

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17 Nov 2024, 16:01
It's quite funny to call Leclerc of all people privileged, given his lack of wealth as a kid compared to some other drivers and the sheer amount of tragedy he endured on his way to F1.

I think we should let him have his fun without being judgmental! If I suddenly became rich in my 20s I would also do some crazy ---. :lol:
No one mentioned privilege, just rich. I'm sure it was an honest mistake in any case. Let's not get into unnecessary personal arguments :)
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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 16:01
It's quite funny to call Leclerc of all people privileged, given his lack of wealth as a kid compared to some other drivers and the sheer amount of tragedy he endured on his way to F1.

I think we should let him have his fun without being judgmental! If I suddenly became rich in my 20s I would also do some crazy ---. :lol:
Privileged is perhaps the wrong way to use for Charles, but he is definitely luckier than most people living in the world. Personal tragedies aside (which in itself aren't really as rare as you would think sadly), he has had all the opportunities and means to follow a path in life which has led him to this point right now.

Is he skilled/talented and deserves where he is in life right now? Absolutely.
But it's not unreasonable to think that out there they might be someone who given the same opportunities and means, would eventually become the best driver the sport has ever seen.

Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford to follow a career in motorsports though.
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According to Sainz, his team have done a great job to improve the SF-24. "If you ask me personally, my personal feeling is that it was a very small step in terms of downforce, but it's just been maybe a bigger step in terms of usable downforce, especially the way you can run the car with stiffnesses, etc," the Spaniard began.

"I'm just happy that the car doesn't bounce as much and it's into a decent window because that's for me how a Formula One car should behave and perform and what we had in mid-season was just in a way not acceptable and not very drivable and the moment we corrected that I'm happy that this paid because it's how a Formula One car should behave and should be and I'm happy that it's proven itself that way because it's just giving us a much better platform to work with. And, it's just a more usable car for sure," Sainz then added.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/313006/s ... in-f1.html
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Emag wrote:
17 Nov 2024, 16:23

Privileged is perhaps the wrong way to use for Charles, but he is definitely luckier than most people living in the world. Personal tragedies aside (which in itself aren't really as rare as you would think sadly), he has had all the opportunities and means to follow a path in life which has led him to this point right now.

Is he skilled/talented and deserves where he is in life right now? Absolutely.
But it's not unreasonable to think that out there they might be someone who given the same opportunities and means, would eventually become the best driver the sport has ever seen.

Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford to follow a career in motorsports though.
Of course, he is very lucky in general. There are lots of amazing drivers who never make it past the karting level because of funding, particularly ones who aren't European.

But it's silly to boil down his opportunities to "just" him being rich. He receives these opportunities because he's an excellent driver and therefore very popular and a huge marketing asset. The Hamilton/Leclerc pairing is going to have crazy revenue potential...

Anyway, I didn't mean to personally attack anyone. The tone of their original response bothered me, but I digress. It seems like the teams have been very tight-lipped this break, even about next year's cars. I'm choosing to believe this is a positive sign that everything is going well :lol:

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