2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[SoulPancake13]

What happened to Sainz today? All weekend he was faster than Charles here, but today he was 2 tenths off. Genuinely not trying to start anything, just wondering if he said anything about his lap?

[woocasz]

Another statement from Sainz, not getting the upgrades but still putting it ahead.

How is it that when sainz is in front of Leclerc, (0.03s ahead in SQ) you are in ecstasy, but when Charles demolishes sainz (0.2s!) you are quiet. With this amount of understeer, sainz should be a lot closer.

[AR3-GP]

What happened to Sainz today? All weekend he was faster than Charles here, but today he was 2 tenths off. Genuinely not trying to start anything, just wondering if he said anything about his lap?

Both went faster than yesterday so they both have improved. Leclerc improved more. A good riposte for the perceval.

[ScuderiaLeo]

What happened to Sainz today? All weekend he was faster than Charles here, but today he was 2 tenths off. Genuinely not trying to start anything, just wondering if he said anything about his lap?

He said he had difficulty with understeer in S2, and he lost a few milliseconds on the straights because he went out of towing range.

That said, he didn't make any major driver errors. No mistakes or snaps or anything like that in his final lap. I think he just had more difficulty wrestling the car than Leclerc. It was a handful for both of them.

They didn't comment on this but as another user said, I suspect their outlap S3 wasn't perfect, which meant their S1 and especially T1 weren't optimal. But that didn't seem to be driver error, more poor planning by the team.

[Xyz22]

Our biggest issue in turn 1 was the understeer that forced the driver to apply a lot of wheel angle, which then caused oversteer.
Difficult to manage and this is why i expect Sainz to have an edge.

Leclerc must be relieved, he will have a weaker teammate next year...

One day you guys will realize that performance is massively impacted by the characteristics of the car. Maybe Lewis will like Ferrari balance next year and will perform much better.

About this topic. Did you notice Zhou performance improvement after the new package Sauber brought in Vegas? Before that he was always qualifying 0.5s or worse behind Bottas. Two quali sessions in a row where Zhou is ahead now. Said the car has completely changed and now does what he wants.

[Sevach]

About this topic. Did you notice Zhou performance improvement after the new package Sauber brought in Vegas? Before that he was always qualifying 0.5s or worse behind Bottas. Two quali sessions in a row where Zhou is ahead now. Said the car has completely changed and now does what he wants.

Ferrari is tipically set up softer, better at slow speed and less sensitive to ride height variation than the Mercedes, maybe these characteristics will get Hamilton in fighting shape, but that's a maybe.

Still won't matter much if the team doesn't close the gap in terms of ultimate speed.

[ScuderiaLeo]

A one place grid penalty for Verstappen is odd to say the least, but I don't think it'll affect Ferrari's race much unless Leclerc gets past both McLarens at the start somehow.

[SoulPancake13]

With such a long season, I decided to read some of the comments from Bahrain and Jeddah again. We really did make great progress, even with the Spain blip. Everyone is so close now but back then we were all satisfied with being 3 tenths off of Red Bull! As the season winds down, I think a big praise is due to the engineers for the development this season. To even be in a WCC fight considering the middle races is nothing short of incredible. Hoping for a great race today and a great end to 2024 for the team.

[jambuka]

With such a long season, I decided to read some of the comments from Bahrain and Jeddah again. We really did make great progress this season, even with the Spain blip. Everyone is so close now but back then we were all satisfied with being 3 tenths off of Red Bull! As the season winds down, I think a big praise is due to the engineers for the development this season. To even be in a WCC fight considering the middle of the season is nothing short of incredible. Hoping for a great race today and a great end to the season.

Spain blip cost us constructors championship though. But yes, great recovery.

[SoulPancake13]

With such a long season, I decided to read some of the comments from Bahrain and Jeddah again. We really did make great progress this season, even with the Spain blip. Everyone is so close now but back then we were all satisfied with being 3 tenths off of Red Bull! As the season winds down, I think a big praise is due to the engineers for the development this season. To even be in a WCC fight considering the middle of the season is nothing short of incredible. Hoping for a great race today and a great end to the season.

Spain blip cost us constructors championship though. But yes, great recovery.

Yes, but to bounce back in the manner the team did was quite impressive nonetheless. The post summer break results have been nothing short of very good even with clear areas of improvement for next year's car.

Next year genuinely has to be the year though. All of this positive momentum has culminated in us fighting at the front again, and now we need to capitalize on it. I have faith in Fred, the engineers, and the drivers to bring it.

[ScuderiaLeo]

With such a long season, I decided to read some of the comments from Bahrain and Jeddah again. We really did make great progress, even with the Spain blip. Everyone is so close now but back then we were all satisfied with being 3 tenths off of Red Bull! As the season winds down, I think a big praise is due to the engineers for the development this season. To even be in a WCC fight considering the middle races is nothing short of incredible. Hoping for a great race today and a great end to 2024 for the team.

I went back to the comments from Barcelona the other day. Needless to say things are much more positive now

[KimiRai]

How is it that when sainz is in front of Leclerc, (0.03s ahead in SQ) you are in ecstasy, but when Charles demolishes sainz (0.2s!) you are quiet. With this amount of understeer, sainz should be a lot closer.

One day you guys will realize that performance is massively impacted by the characteristics of the car. Maybe Lewis will like Ferrari balance next year and will perform much better.

Leclerc is better than Sainz obviously. But to his credit, this is Sainz's best season in Ferrari.

It remains to be seen whether Lewis will beat Sainz's 2024 performance. In any case, I hope the 2025 car is fast and Ferrari can challenge for the championship.

[Seanspeed]

But to his credit, this is Sainz's best season in Ferrari.

It is, and it's certainly a factor in Ferrari even having had sight of the WCC this year. Sainz has had much fewer 'off' weekends than usual.

Because yea, overall, Ferrari has been 'fastest car' at only a tiny handful of weekends this year. Clearly behind Red Bull at the start, and then clearly behind Mclaren for most of the year.

[Seanspeed]

Sainz was instructed to not put Charles under pressure. And he didn't put Charles under pressure

If Charles fans assume that means do not pass, sorry, but you're wrong. Wording matters

Location: Madrid, Spain

The defense of this is honestly just getting laughable at this point.

Real "You said not to take a cookie from the jar, but it's not technically a jar!" energy right here. smh

Pretty disgusting Ad-Hominem falacy Seanspeed, no real arguments, just attack the person

My argument was clearly that you're taking the 'wording matters' argument to a laughable level. I think I made that pretty obvious, but you'd rather not respond to that bit instead trying to play some victim instead. smh

[bananapeel23]

A one place grid penalty for Verstappen is odd to say the least, but I don't think it'll affect Ferrari's race much unless Leclerc gets past both McLarens at the start somehow.

I don’t think Leclerc needs to clear both off the line. I think clearing either Piastri or Norris will be enough since that would prevent them from playing DRS games.

If he gets the first one, Leclerc either manages to overtake the second one during stint 1 or has the ability to undercut, but he realistically needs to win the race for the WCC to be on.