McLaren MCL39

[Holm86]

MCL39 Official Renders with 2025 livery:

https://i.imgur.com/SHviGlm.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/JqOcBFk.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/WTIdeiK.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/LswRlce.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Pc2pnBv.jpeg

That's the MLC38

[SmallSoldier]

That's the MLC38

You are right, deleted

[ltitus8900]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj7GjHXX0AA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj7GjHvWsAA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj7GjIBW8AE ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj7HLkwWoAA ... name=large

This Mclaren is very Newey like to me. I might do a bad job of explaining what I mean but whatever. I like how the suspension aero is used together with the bodywork to help support the flows as it transitions to the beginning of the floor and how the bodywork of the chassis mirrors that of the aero ahead of it preserve a very powerful flow structure downstream. I also love how there is a relatively straight angle all the way back to the end of the sidepods. If they are able to get the flows to behave like they want it to, they should be able to work the floor quite nicely indeed.

I am happy that they kept the diffusor transition far back as well. They should have a beautifully balanced car if everything works as it should.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Which other teams run double kick diffusers?

I think McLaren was the last of Top 5 to adopt this kind of geometry, back in Mexico last year

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gg9ejvBWYAA ... name=large

As far as I can see the double kick was there in the old design as well just that the initial kick was made larger.

Would you agree?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the "double kick" diffuser?

[gcdugas]

Everyone seems to be fixated on the aero effect of the top rear wishbone being so low but what is really in play is that the engineers have put a ton of anti-dive geometry. This will affect the tunnels far more than the aero effect of the lowered mounting point.

[f1rules]

i would encourage you to go back in this thread and read some older posts, and not believe all you read in twitter

Everyone seems to be fixated on the aero effect of the top rear wishbone being so low but what is really in play is that the engineers have put a ton of anti-dive geometry. This will affect the tunnels far more than the aero effect of the lowered mounting point.

[mclaren111]

[_cerber1]

This place seems very well designed.

[CjC]

It’s been speculated that the suspension is working as some sort of flow conditioner to the mouth of the floor or am I mistaken?

[gcdugas]

i would encourage you to go back in this thread and read some older posts, and not believe all you read in twitter

Everyone seems to be fixated on the aero effect of the top rear wishbone being so low but what is really in play is that the engineers have put a ton of anti-dive geometry. This will affect the tunnels far more than the aero effect of the lowered mounting point.

Yes f1rules, you are right but as soon as I say that, another comes along and proves my assertion as well. Case and point... the post from CjC at Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:13

I was trying to redirect the conversation back to the substantive reason for the rear mount position of the top wishbone. It's not just about "not believing all you read in twitter". It's right here on this thread.

[gcdugas]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/N8X14ndTXzrzoByF8

[f1rules]

I know, and thanks for the input. Im really not sure if its one or the other. Both sides has been mentioned on twitter.

i would encourage you to go back in this thread and read some older posts, and not believe all you read in twitter

Everyone seems to be fixated on the aero effect of the top rear wishbone being so low but what is really in play is that the engineers have put a ton of anti-dive geometry. This will affect the tunnels far more than the aero effect of the lowered mounting point.

Yes f1rules, you are right but as soon as I say that, another comes along and proves my assertion as well. Case and point... the post from CjC at Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:13

I was trying to redirect the conversation back to the substantive reason for the rear mount position of the top wishbone. It's not just about "not believing all you read in twitter". It's right here on this thread.

[michl420]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/N8X14ndTXzrzoByF8

The best explanation I see in 3 years.

[CjC]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/N8X14ndTXzrzoByF8

The best explanation I see in 3 years.

Agreed

[CjC]

i would encourage you to go back in this thread and read some older posts, and not believe all you read in twitter

Everyone seems to be fixated on the aero effect of the top rear wishbone being so low but what is really in play is that the engineers have put a ton of anti-dive geometry. This will affect the tunnels far more than the aero effect of the lowered mounting point.

Yes f1rules, you are right but as soon as I say that, another comes along and proves my assertion as well. Case and point... the post from CjC at Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:13

I was trying to redirect the conversation back to the substantive reason for the rear mount position of the top wishbone. It's not just about "not believing all you read in twitter". It's right here on this thread.

No beef here but I’m just wondering why I’m ‘the case in point’ and you have pointed out that I’ve been a member of this forum for 13 years?

I don’t have a twitter account so I can’t read all the rubbish which is posted on there- only twitter stuff I see is what posted on this forum.

Anyway, are you suggesting that Mclaren in this instance have laid out their new front suspension with no interest of how it will interfere/ interact with the aerodynamics of the car?