Lotus T127 Cosworth

[mx_tifoso]

Nah Mod, you're just saying that because you're a jilted ex-FOTA lover.

[Pandamasque]

It may have just sounded that way

On a side note, This new fashion of opening threads for 2010 cars before the end of the 2009 season is plain wrong. Most of the posts have nothing to do with the actual topic title. Just like the cars on the pictures have very little to do with the ones to (hopefully) run in 2010.

This silly season is somehow sillier than last year and the one before.

[scarbs]

Hi scarbs, i don't know if the name i used for the part is right but i saw it at 00:30 and 01:04. Maybe it was a mistake from me.

Ah I see... That part isn't the snowplough, its the splitter. Often known as the 'Tea tray'. This part has to exist to meet the flat bottom rules. Although its also part of the aero to seperate the airflows aroudn and under the car, the little fences running along its edge are common, only williams run without them.

A 'snowplough' is a term I've used to apply to Williams or Brawns devices under the nose, Brawn have a curved vane accross the splitter, while Williams have theirs under the nose cone. The create a vortex to affect the airflow and hence pressure distribution under the floor (to the diffuser).

[RH1300S]

Question; Why do the Brits despise this new Lotus team? I have read numerous times where Bits pass the team off as some hopeless imitator or as an unrelated spin off with just a licensed name. They look like the real deal to me. They have the name, the cars the technology, they own the company it self. What more do they have to do before they are accepted?

I wouldn't say 'despise' - perhaps suspicious of/uncertain/doubtful.

Lotus is a team dear to many people's hearts and it means a lot for it not to become just another debacle (think about the last days of Lotus or Brabham - very sad).

If it was called Team Malayasia or something - I'm sure everyone would be very impressed.

[scarbs]

Its about that very English trait, heritage….

I think Lotus, like Tyrrell is one of the teams that are close to the British fans hearts, as each team had so much character and success (at their peak). Equally both teams were headed by charismatic men who built up the team from their small garages and beat the grandee’s.

Now taking the teams name with a start up, almost faceless team, kind of belittles the character of the old team.

That said, I think Mike Gascoyne is a good man to head the team, he’s an extrovert and an innovator. Not quite to the same level as, but not that dissimilar to Colin Chapman.

Also one exception to the re-using an old teams name would have been Honda renaming back to Tyrrell under Ross Brawn, rather than the eponymous Brawn title. I think that would have been received well, as the team would have honoured and respected the names heritage.

Scarbs

[RH1300S]

You know - I think part of the 'problem' is Mike Gascoyne - bear with me on this.....

If Ross Brawn had started a team with the Lotus name, there would be a lot more confidence.

I think the trouble with Mike is you never really know what will happen. Ross is a great manager and thoroughly understands engineering and also what it takes to ge the WHOLE job done.

I'm not so sure Mike is the man for that.

He might produce a brilliant car, it is also just as likely that the toys will start flying around.

[meves]

Its about that very English trait, heritage…

I think we all have a passion for certain marques that have heritage or history not just the english. What would people be saying if the ferrari name purchased and a company in Vietnam (vietnam was a random country I chose)started making Ferrari F1 cars? I'd love to see the boards then.

The thing with Lotus was it had a very specific heritage with one of the great car designers who began and ran the marque. Lotus have a heritage of making very innovative and lightweight but efficient cars. We don't really want to see them come back as an also ran.... but we'd love to see them back to their glory days.

[raceman]

You know - I think part of the 'problem' is Mike Gascoyne - bear with me on this.....

If Ross Brawn had started a team with the Lotus name, there would be a lot more confidence.

I think the trouble with Mike is you never really know what will happen. Ross is a great manager and thoroughly understands engineering and also what it takes to ge the WHOLE job done.

I'm not so sure Mike is the man for that.

He might produce a brilliant car, it is also just as likely that the toys will start flying around.

+1

I agree.

[bill shoe]

Lotus has decided that Alex Yoong will be a scout to search for and develop talented young drivers.

http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=47519

I always dislike the ride-buying culture that exists in the bottom ~50% of F1 seats, but even by this standard Alex Yoong was the most blatantly unqualified ride-buyer of the modern F1 era. Now, Lotus is talking up its Malaysian connections and recruiting the assistance of people like Alex Yoong. This is not much info in the big picture, but it's significant information about the nature of the team and how it operates. I predict Lotus to be the worst of the new teams.

[Richard]

Question; Why do the Brits despise this new Lotus team?

I haven't noticed that, all the new teams are treated in the same way. I suggest it is a culture thing, lost in translation. What I see is a very healthy disregard for people who come along with showmanship and have yet to show their substance.

[Richard]

Fernandes went on to state that his target for next season was to beat fellow F1 newcomer Virgin Racing, which is backed by British aviation tycoon Richard Branson.

"I said that number one we have to be ahead of Branson, otherwise I will retire and kill myself," he added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 404964.stm

OK, so is that fact or opinion???

[Fil]

A modern day rivalry already, that's great to hear!

And if Lotus get their man Trulli, its the battle of the old teammates too, adding to the spice!

[Fil]

Trulli & Kovalainen have been confirmed as the drivers for Lotus in 2010.

Trulli with plenty of experience & Kovalainen now at his 3rd team in 4yrs. They both know how championship teams operate; great knowledge to learn from the pair for a new team.

[marcush.]

on f1total.com some pics of the molds and buck of the monocoque are shown ....so they difinitively have not opted for a low and wide fueltank ,more so for the widest portion quite high ..lets see how the others compare...also square crossection at the nose nothing like redbull thinking there.So to me this looks like a very conservative approach.

[ISLAMATRON]

link to pics please