Bahrain GP 2010 - BIC

[andartop]

I don't mind (that much) the drivers all following the same strategy, and I don't mind the fastest lap of the race being half an hour off the pole winning lap, but I am genuinely worried about drivers being so afraid to get anywhere near the car in front.. If you thought this was boring wait till Valencia!!!

On the other hand, these are hard times, and as a lot of fellow forum members have been advocating F1 needs to cut its costs, so no surprise we're getting a watered down version of it: you get what (others) pay for!

So, here are my suggestions for further cost cutting, which may even allow further new teams (we so desperately need) to come in to F1:

A single set of tires for 8 race weekends: Bridgestone seem to be able to pull that off, and as everything else has to last that long why not the tires?

Each of the first four classified teams should share data and info, and advise each of the last four classified teams: these poor small teams are poor, and Jesus said he who has should giveth (or something). As an incentive, at the end of the year the team whose "protected" small team fares best gets a percentage of the other three highly ranked teams' money.

Scrap Europe, America and the far East: run 24 races in the Middle East and India. We know that's where the money is, that's where the sponsors are, and this would also cut down costs of moving the circus all around the globe.

Bring back further former F1 Champs and former F1 Champs' relatives: Big names attract big bucks.

On a more serious note, let's wait and see the next three-four races before we start panicking about the impending doom of the most boring season ever: panicking never helps to make sound decisions, and I sure as hell can remember more boring races than the one we just saw!

[enkidu]

I got to say I thought that race was the most boring race I had ever seen..... Now i'm a massive F1 fan but if the rest of the races were like that I must admit I might not watch them religiously.....

I kept thinking maybe the race would come alive towards the end but nothing, there was no overtaking all the way through..... FIA rubbish!

[vall]

I'm a bit surprised too, that McLaren didn't compromise it's excessive top speed for more downforce/lower top speed. Maybe it's the bumps? If they go for a higher downforce, maybe they were to suffer more from bumps?

Macca were odered by FIA to modify their diffuser. This should affect their downforce levels, right? So, they may find it more difficult in the next few races..

[univex]

Frustratingly boring race. Got to say, I cannot understand why they allowed the DDD to stay for 2010. The idea for getting rid of it in the first place was to allow the cars to follow much closer around the corners and therefore have a better chance of getting into the slip stream down the straights. Looking forward to them going next year.

As for 2010 I thought that the ban on refueling was a good thing, just doesn't help when the cars cannot pass. One solution maybe to throw out the hard compound tyres and force them into the pits more often for tyre strategy. This one stopping is not good for a sport where passing is so difficult.

[djos]

Melbourne Gp Thread now up: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8154


Im praying for a better race! [-o<

[doopie2you]

Bringing the life distance of tires down is not the solution.
Bring them up, and make a rule that people MUST make 2 pit stops.
This way the drivers don't have to save their tires and can push like hell!
And when they make the pit stop they get a new fresh pair of tires and then the fight goes on.

And the start on tires you qual on is stupid too, people don't qual full because they save their tires to continue longer in the race.

And give teams MORE tires for the weekend, maybe it is not the solution for budget saving but then people will try to make more of their race weekend and I THINK we gonna see much more action.

Sorry if i say the same as somebody in last 5 pages, i am just spilling my idea

[autogyro]

One thing I noticed, or at least I think I did.
The RB6 seemed to have a very low ride height at the end of the race.
Some of the other cars had daylight under them.
I think Adrian has a little trick up his sleeve on this.

[Spencifer_Murphy]

One thing I noticed, or at least I think I did.
The RB6 seemed to have a very low ride height at the end of the race.
Some of the other cars had daylight under them.
I think Adrian has a little trick up his sleeve on this.

I thought I noticed that too, when Vettel came through the last turn (possibly on the slow down lap) it appeared that the front of the floor was practically shaving the tarmac. I figured I was seeing things or it was a trick of the light.

There has been talk of ride hight adjusters, even on BBC's F1 coverage, maybe the Red Bulls have already got them?

[Richard]

I'm a bit surprised too, that McLaren didn't compromise it's excessive top speed for more downforce/lower top speed. Maybe it's the bumps? If they go for a higher downforce, maybe they were to suffer more from bumps?

Martin Whitmarsh said on the extended BBC coverage that he was shocked by their pace on Saturday. He said that they set the ride to be too hard so lost time on the twisty bits. he and Hamilton said that they lost 0.7 seconds in sector 2, but managed to pull that back in the other sectors. Whitmarsh was very frank about it, he does give a very honest interview.

Macca were odered by FIA to modify their diffuser. This should affect their downforce levels, right? So, they may find it more difficult in the next few races..

The reports I've seen have said that it has to be rectified for the next race. So I guess that means it does not give a significant performance advantage - a sign of sensible stewarding?

[Richard]

What a dull race for strategy.

The are now only two laps that count in F1 - the Q3 lap and the first lap the race. The rest is watching paint dry.

[manchild]

Italian media dump old flame for new one:

http://www.express.de/sport/motorsport/ ... index.html

You know what I think about the guy, but this is utter hypocrisy. Now that he is no longer in Ferrari, after decade and a half, he has all of the sudden become for them "World champion of arrogance" etc. It did not bother them while he was in Ferrari. Money talks.

[ESPImperium]

F1 Fanatic has a fantastic article here on the state of the sport: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/03/15/b ... g-problem/

So reduce downforce futher, and try and get the cars try and solve the cooling issues??? Posibly re allow Shark Gills???

How do we get the cars closer togehter, a tighter spread across the entire feild and also remedy the cooling issues for engines???

[andrew]

I have to be honestly blunt and say that I am now embrassed to be an F1 fan. Yesterdays "race" (and I use the term "race" in the loosest possible way) was absolutely terrible and a disgrace.

But this is Max Mosleys F1. He is behind the ridiculous rules like compulsary tyre stops and drivers having to use option and prime tyres (can we not just have soft, medium or hard and drivers do what they like?), engines having to last 2 or 3 races and no fuel stops. With the cars so evenly matched at the front of the grid there is virtually no difference in performance. The fuel stops are needed in F1s current format.

In feel that the way forward is for the cars to run at lower revs, go back to the original tyre rules from a few years ago, reduce braking efficiency and get rid of complex aero devices like the double diffusers.

[WhiteBlue]

I have to be honestly blunt and say that I am now embrassed to be an F1 fan. Yesterdays "race" (and I use the term "race" in the loosest possible way) was absolutely terrible and a disgrace.

But this is Max Mosleys F1....

You obviously havn't got a clue about the issue you are talking of. The rules this year are made by FOTA and Montezemolo that was what the break away was all about.

If we had it Max Mosley's way we would have KERS for overtaking and much more freedom of design. But Ferrari managed to give us this wonderfully dull rules to make sure that their budget and resource advantage would give them superiority. With new freedom of design they always face the chance of being beaten by clever guys like Newey.

[RacingManiac]

Seeing the new cars so far have not even gotten the basics sorted(wheel staying attached, hydraulic issue, composite suspension components), I think it would've been a tall order to have them make a even more complex car with KERS and active aero and do it in 45 million pound......