Hungarian GP 2010 - Hungaroring

[raymondu999]

Come on now people. We're all humans. I don't think there's a single person on this forum who has NOT vented frustration over something before. What difference does it make that he's zooming around circuits at 200 mph? He's still human. Nobody creamed Hamilton over his Australia "terrible idea!!" radio. Or Alonso's radios (Ok well there were some). How about Webber's "not bad for a number 2 driver?"

[komninosm]

Come on now people. We're all humans. I don't think there's a single person on this forum who has NOT vented frustration over something before. What difference does it make that he's zooming around circuits at 200 mph? He's still human. Nobody creamed Hamilton over his Australia "terrible idea!!" radio. Or Alonso's radios (Ok well there were some). How about Webber's "not bad for a number 2 driver?"

Actually we "discussed" all of those incidents, so your point is kinda moot mate

[hollus]

it was not the same!!! Alosno was still on track, while RB is clearly out. Imagine if a car was coming out of the pits?

It was exactly the same, half the car was over the white line near the wall. Go check the pictures in that thread.
The difference was it was on slower speed cause it was race start.

I take it you didn't actually watch the race, Komnisnosm?
Watch the video first, tell that it is the same afterwards. That picture does no justice at all to the pushing from Schumacher. He pushed Barrichelo into the grass afterwards as well.

[djos]

Come on now people. We're all humans. I don't think there's a single person on this forum who has NOT vented frustration over something before. What difference does it make that he's zooming around circuits at 200 mph? He's still human. Nobody creamed Hamilton over his Australia "terrible idea!!" radio. Or Alonso's radios (Ok well there were some). How about Webber's "not bad for a number 2 driver?"

I'd have been just as angry as Seb was had I been in his position!

[ecapox]

This forum, and most internet forums for that matter, are all about the "jump on the guy while he is down". Fernando has some issues and out comes the "Is ALonso losing it" thread. THen there is the Lewis thread and while Vettel doesnt have his own thread yet, i bet it isnt too far off.

He was pissed, i'd be too if i had no idea what was going on. Give him the benefit of the doubt that he was in the dark about it.

[ESPImperium]

Best race of the year barring Canada.

Lots going on, plenty of battles and incedents to discuss.

Schumacher did bad, The pits should be closed when the SCD notice is shown on the timing screens. And Webber was the driver of the day!!!

[myurr]

Come on now people. We're all humans. I don't think there's a single person on this forum who has NOT vented frustration over something before. What difference does it make that he's zooming around circuits at 200 mph? He's still human. Nobody creamed Hamilton over his Australia "terrible idea!!" radio. Or Alonso's radios (Ok well there were some). How about Webber's "not bad for a number 2 driver?"

You obviously don't actually read the forum very much. People have been very critical of Alonso, myself included, for his petulant remarks and rightly so. Also Hamilton was roundly criticised for his 'terrible idea' remarks.

People were also very critical of Hamilton for his hesitation when he passed the safety car whilst he worked out what the rules were - despite him misjudging it by 0.05 seconds (presuming the safety car was doing 100mph). In this case Vettel made a huge mistake behind the safety car and should have known the rules and reacted in time.

[zgred]

Some Pit actions:

[myurr]

And can I just say what a great weekend for Petrov, Hulkenberg, de la Rosa and Kobyashi. Happy for them!

[WhiteBlue]

Haug said that Michael kept his line while Rubens went inside for a gap that wasn't going to be big enough. Here we see him behind and already with two wheels off track. He could have easily backed off.



looks like Michael still keeping his line



and here he starts to drive left a bit more



staying on that line which still leaves very little room



Michael going left leaving a bit more room with Rubens now only with two wheels on track



evolving, Rubens getting completely off track



Michael finally giving room but clearly very late



Rubens missed the wall by just centimeters. Rubens did get himself into a very tight spot and clearly did not lift when he should have. Michael was brutally hard there and drove Rubens clearly off track and almost into the wall. It was dangerous driving I think but in the end they did not have an accident and Rubens should have known better than trying such a move on Michael without being in front. Perhaps both drivers should be reprimanded. Rubens went deliberately off track to pass and Michael did not give enough room once that Rubens was committed. He should have let the fool through instead of risking their life. In the final dangerous moment only Michael could prevent the accident, which he did but by a too small margin. Penalty should be given to send a clear message that driving off track isn't ok.

[ringo]

Vettel poles again and loses out again.

Showed his inability to craft an overtake on a much slower car, and that he can't keep composure when pursuing it.
He still gets my ratings though, he's just young and inexperienced. His pitlane rant was rather funny; i think he was joking as well when he did that.

Other than Vettel messing up again, great race by Webber and Barichello. Hamilton was doing very good until the accident, Button was nowhere.

Good race by Petrov, he showed up kubica.

Alonso did his best, outclassing Massa and making him look very slow. Sometimes i wonder if Massa can't see out of his left eye. He's hiding some kind of disability from everyone.

Shumacher is now officially The Track Troll. He should keep it up, it makes the races exciting.

[hollus]

Show pore pics, WB, please. Schumi still pushed Rubens into the grass after that. It is easier to debate with good pics.

[komninosm]

This forum, and most internet forums for that matter, are all about the "jump on the guy while he is down". Fernando has some issues and out comes the "Is ALonso losing it" thread. THen there is the Lewis thread and while Vettel doesnt have his own thread yet, i bet it isnt too far off.

He was pissed, i'd be too if i had no idea what was going on. Give him the benefit of the doubt that he was in the dark about it.

If you check closely the threads about Alonso and Hamilton are questions. Are they desperate and losing it? As far as Vettel is concerned there is no question, he is indeed desperate and losing it. So no need for a thread
(just kidding, maybe )

[ringo]

Haug said that Michael kept his line while Rubens went inside for a gap that wasn't going to be big enough. Here we see him behind and already with two wheels off track. He could have easily backed off.



looks like Michael still keeping his line



and here he starts to drive left a bit more



staying on that line which still leaves very little room



Michael going left leaving a bit more room with Rubens now only with two wheels on track


evolving, Rubens getting completely off track



Michael finally giving room but clearly very late



Rubens missed the wall by just centimeters. Rubens did get himself into a very tight spot and clearly did not lift when he should have. Michael was brutally hard there and drove Rubens clearly off track and almost into the wall. It was dangerous driving I think but in the end they did not have an accident and Rubens should have known better than trying such a move on Michael without being in front. Perhaps both drivers should be reprimanded. Rubens went deliberately off track to pass and Michael did not give enough room once that Rubens was committed. He should have let the fool through instead of risking their life. In the final dangerous moment only Michael could prevent the accident, which he did but by a too small margin. Penalty should be given to send a clear message that driving off track isn't ok.

Nice try but watch the tyre marks in the road. Shumacher's "line" was aligned to shepherd a driver into the wall. His line was based solely on giving rubens 2 options; come beside me and die of blunt trauma with a concrete wall, or brake and stay behind me.
It's fair racing to me, but i like my racing risky and dangerous; i don't think others will agree with my safety standards.

[myurr]

Rubens did not go deliberately off track - he was pushed there dangerously by Michael. Rubens cannot gain from steering off track when he is going down a STRAIGHT!! There is no justifying this move by Schumacher, it was dirty and dangerous and has no place in F1. Schumacher left a gap, Rubens went for it, Schumacher then went to close it but it was too late but that didn't stop him trying. It could have ended in a very ugly crash and in my view Schumacher should face a race ban as punishment, he does not deserve to be on the grid.