Abu Dhabi GP 2010 - Yas Marina Circuit

[marcush.]

Mark Webber is one of the guys who look very independant but i feel it got to him when the team refused to support him in the ways Ferrari supported Alonso.
I think RedBull gampled at high risk giving vettel full support and they had a lot of luck to still come home on top .we should not forget they could have bagged the drivers championship a lot earlier if they did it Ferrari stile.
to me that´s about game over for Webber in terms of drivers champion ,right?

[Shrieker]

Mark Webber is one of the guys who look very independant but i feel it got to him when the team refused to support him in the ways Ferrari supported Alonso.
I think RedBull gampled at high risk giving vettel full support and they had a lot of luck to still come home on top .we should not forget they could have bagged the drivers championship a lot earlier if they did it Ferrari stile.
to me that´s about game over for Webber in terms of drivers champion ,right?

If -one day- he gets another shot at the WDC I'll be very surprised - in fact I'll eat my words and shut up forever (don't you dare quote that last part )

[Terrible3]

to me that´s about game over for Webber in terms of drivers champion ,right?

Well it moves the ball further into Vettel's court next year, but so long as Mark stays with RBR next year there is no reason why he wont have more than a decent shot at it. This is all based on the assumption that Mark will honor the contract extension he signed in the summer. With that being said its hard to see him having a better opportunity than he had this year. The car and reliability were there and he failed to capitalize.

[nipo]

That "thing" Alonso did to Vitaly Petrov, that's just another reason for me to hate him even more.

Thumbs up to Petrov, he definitely drove his best race of the year. Throughout the course of the race I found that I have become a big fan of his, as well as Hamilton, Button, Rosberg and Kubica. I've been cheering for them like mad this race.

Ok, enough of anti-Alonso-ism for now.

[Morteza]

Mark Webber is one of the guys who look very independant but i feel it got to him when the team refused to support him in the ways Ferrari supported Alonso.
I think RedBull gampled at high risk giving vettel full support and they had a lot of luck to still come home on top .we should not forget they could have bagged the drivers championship a lot earlier if they did it Ferrari stile.
to me that´s about game over for Webber in terms of drivers champion ,right?

I agree with you Marcus. I think Webber should leave Red Bull and find himself another team cause as we all know the whole team supports Webber. But it keeps me wondering that is there any top team available for him to go and will he have a chance to be fighting for championship again?

[andrew]

Jenson Button. 26 points behind the Boss come season final ...I think some forum members should think about their perception of driver qualities....

Not exactly the trouncing that so many predicted. Not really much in it, 1 win and a 10th place finish. Under old money it's only 11 point.

[ringo]

Good job to finger boy!!! =D> =D>

Goes to show that speed is everything. Maturity and lack of craft doesn't matter when you can lead from pole.
All it takes is the self belief and the nerves. If you have the speed you are in control. Vettel had it, webber did not.

Vettel was destined to win this year really. He was very unlucky in the early parts and really should have won this thing earlier.

Webber showed me, Redbull had all the rights to make Vettel #1 from the beginning. Initially i thought he should have a fair go, but in the end it's a waste of effort by redbull. Webber melted away when it counts.
Goes to show what it takes to win a championship, Hamilton had to deal with this pressure twice in a second best car.
Webber had the best car and made a hash of it.

I really wanted him to win the WDC over Alonso, buy since vettel has it, i'm ok with that.
Korea lost it for Webber and his smash into the wall today.
His singapore crash into lewis and rosberg crash also came back and bit him.

Those who thing Alonso is the best driver on the grid, we just saw today that he still has a weak mind. He was all over the place behind petrov. You could see the frustration and powerlessness. He had this in the bag and threw it away, worse than lewis did.

[Mysticf1]

@ Mysticf1

You rate Hamilton's brush with Massa@ Monza as similar with Webber vs. Hamilton in Melbourne and Singapore ?!? What about Webber vs. Vettel in Istanbul then ? I accept Vettel was more to blame on that incident, but that doesn't change the fact that the guy is just horrible when it comes to wheel to wheel racing.

yes i do rate them as similar, going for a gap that isnt there...vettel on webber in istanbul was much worse, it was gross incompetence from vettel.

I'm not going to get into some long winded argument with you, all im saying is you could declare most drivers rubbish wheel to wheel racers when you pick out a couple incidents.

Mark Webber is one of the guys who look very independant but i feel it got to him when the team refused to support him in the ways Ferrari supported Alonso.
I think RedBull gampled at high risk giving vettel full support and they had a lot of luck to still come home on top .we should not forget they could have bagged the drivers championship a lot earlier if they did it Ferrari stile.
to me that´s about game over for Webber in terms of drivers champion ,right?

unfortunately i think you are right Marcush, no matter how anyone paints the picture or how many press releases RedBull release, there totally support was behind Vettel and that hurt Mark, reading pre race interviews i knew things were not right with Webber every time he stated the pressure wasnt effecting him and it was just another race.

Ultimately he lost it himself and there are no excuses for that.

[Terrible3]

Those who thing Alonso is the best driver on the grid, we just saw today that he still has a weak mind. He was all over the place behind petrov. You could see the frustration and powerlessness. He had this in the bag and threw it away, worse than lewis did.

I was surprised at his performance today. The car visibly gave the direct impression that Alonso was extremely frustrated (not sure if that makes sense). He seems to completely loose his cool and run off the track several times. I think had he just calmed down a little and focused on the exit of that left hand hairpin a little more he would have had a better run into turn 7 to overtake Petrov. In the end I think he was pretty lucky that Mark never capitalized on one of Alonso's many mistakes.

[Gerhard Berger]

Those who thing Alonso is the best driver on the grid, we just saw today that he still has a weak mind. He was all over the place behind petrov. You could see the frustration and powerlessness. He had this in the bag and threw it away, worse than lewis did.

He can get easily frustrated, that is true. But today was not really his fault.

[Shrieker]

all im saying is you could declare most drivers rubbish wheel to wheel racers when you pick out a couple incidents.

Sorry for polluting the thread; last word.

That was my point. It's not only a couple of incidents. Melbourne; rammed Lewis. Istanbul; with his team mate. Singapore; ram Lewis again (my gawd). Korea; take out Rosberg.

All in one season. Then goes out to championship showdown, totally woeful.

As with Ringo, I thought RBR were nuts not to support Webber, but I guess they knew what their drivers were made of better than anyone else.

[nipo]

Those who thing Alonso is the best driver on the grid, we just saw today that he still has a weak mind. He was all over the place behind petrov. You could see the frustration and powerlessness. He had this in the bag and threw it away, worse than lewis did.

As much as I dislike Alonso, I do not agree. I honestly think he was let down by a very incompetent Ferrari team.

[zenithbeach]

what an awesome race! tension till the last lap! and all the little things that made all the big difference for vettel. congrats to vettel and red bull!

driver of the race is Petrov! its kinda ironic that the driver who seems to crash a lot and make mistakes actually managed to keep fernando behind him for such a long time! well done to him!

glad schumi kept his head on his shoulders, that couldve gone terribly wrong. is there any footage of his on board camera?

and what hand gesture did alonso make to the renault?

[nipo]

and what hand gesture did alonso make to the renault?

somebody cares to post a blow-up?

[timbo]

Those who thing Alonso is the best driver on the grid, we just saw today that he still has a weak mind. He was all over the place behind petrov. You could see the frustration and powerlessness. He had this in the bag and threw it away, worse than lewis did.

Hamilton couldn't pass Kubica. Renault was very good at acceleration.