British GP 2011 - Silverstone

[djos]

This was all about Vettel's ego - he lost on track today to two faster drivers, in my view.

+1.

And Webber was gonna show him up, too, until they reigned him in.

Im not at all impressed with RBR's team orders or lousy pit stops today!

[zeph]

Yep, could have but didnt. Either would have correct, you just can't have your driver hit each other there, they would have looked stupid

it is possible for them to race without coming together.

...with Vettel you never know. If anything, today reinforced the idea that he is quick in front when there is no resistance, but not so hot when he's in the thick of things. Maybe the team was afraid he'd do something stupid.


I think Hamilton was epic in defending 2nd!

As an aside, Perez is quietly getting good. He is easier on tires than most and seems to cruise to point finishes without much effort.

[ecapox]

Webber to Ferrari for 2012!

[dave34m]

They could just have easily said to Vettel that Webber was quicker so let him past - same result for the team, would have done more to help Webber in the drivers championship as he actually needs the points. But that would have upset the boy wonder so couldn't be allowed to happen.[/quote]
Yep, could have but didnt. Either would have correct, you just can't have your driver hit each other there, they would have looked stupid[/quote]

it is possible for them to race without coming together.[/quote]
As Horner said, it is about the team, whats the gain in letting them race there for the team. All you can do is lose, and if you are going to issue team orders you would do it to favour the lead driver in the WDC if possible, seems like common sense really

[zeph]

Webber to Ferrari for 2012!

I would LOVE that! My two fave drivers in one team. Even though I never cared much for Ferrari.

But I have warmed up to Hamilton as well. He only has one mode: go for broke, flat out. But he is a blast to watch.

[Jeffsvilleusa]

Wasn't there a rule change this year that team orders are now OK?

[djos]

Webber to Ferrari for 2012!

I would LOVE that! My two fave drivers in one team. Even though I never cared much for Ferrari.

+1 for me too! [-o<

[myurr]

As Horner said, it is about the team, whats the gain in letting them race there for the team. All you can do is lose, and if you are going to issue team orders you would do it to favour the lead driver in the WDC if possible, seems like common sense really

If it was just about the team then they should have ordered Vettel to let Webber past. He needed the points more to help him come second in the championship. Wouldn't have affected anything in the constructors, nor would Vettel have really needed the points boost.

Vettel simply wasn't quick enough today and was beaten fair and square by Alonso and Webber. Only team orders gave him that additional place.

[zeph]

Wasn't there a rule change this year that team orders are now OK?

That was last year.

[Gerhard Berger]

They could just have easily said to Vettel that Webber was quicker so let him past - same result for the team, would have done more to help Webber in the drivers championship as he actually needs the points. But that would have upset the boy wonder so couldn't be allowed to happen.

Yep, could have but didnt. Either would have correct, you just can't have your driver hit each other there, they would have looked stupid[/quote]

it is possible for them to race without coming together.[/quote]
As Horner said, it is about the team, whats the gain in letting them race there for the team. All you can do is lose, and if you are going to issue team orders you would do it to favour the lead driver in the WDC if possible, seems like common sense really[/quote]

Vettel is going to win this championship easily. Webber however has a fight on his hands for 2nd, so it would have made more sense to let him through if anything.

Still they should have let them race because that's what the drivers want to do (well at least Webber does). Sure they could be involved in an incident (just like they could be with any other car they overtake) but that's part of Formula 1 and racing.

[dave34m]

Webber to Ferrari for 2012!

Oh yeah, cos he wont get team orders there.

[Gerhard Berger]

Wasn't there a rule change this year that team orders are now OK?

For sure. But we were all under the impression that Red Bull don't issue team orders and they win things "the right way".

[zeph]

Vettel simply wasn't quick enough today and was beaten fair and square by Alonso and Webber. Only team orders gave him that additional place.

this.

[Steven]

My take on today's events:

- Although I'd prefer drivers to be allowed to fight until the finish line, I do understand the reasoning. It makes sense to ask drivers to maintain their positions in the last 2 laps. Any collision at that moment would have been extremely silly for the team and both its drivers.

- The touch between Hamilton and Massa in the final lap is ok. Massa took his chance, but he was wrong to try to accellerate hard out of the corner. Once ahead, he should have kept the inside of the corner and he would have easily finished ahead of Hamilton. I doubt you would see such a mistake from Hamilton or Alonso really...

[CHT]

If it was just about the team then they should have ordered Vettel to let Webber past. He needed the points more to help him come second in the championship. Wouldn't have affected anything in the constructors, nor would Vettel have really needed the points boost.

Vettel simply wasn't quick enough today and was beaten fair and square by Alonso and Webber. Only team orders gave him that additional place.

You are right, RBR would prefer both cars to finish 2nd and 3rd instead of giving Mclaren fans a chance to celebrate a double RBR DNF.