Korean GP 2011 - Yeong-Am International Circuit

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Hamilton seemed to have better traction than Webber. In the first sector LH was constantly faster than SV and MW...
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Was Rosberg's release unsafe?
Is the Mercedes pit next in line from Mclaren or further up?

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beelsebob wrote: Button was often only 0.6 behind after S1 and S2... but could not quite keep that gap through S3.
Agreed, and I think the same happened between Hamilton and Vettel in the first half of the race. The timing showed somewhere in the first half of the race that Hamilton closed within half a sec. of Vettel (can't remember whether it was before or after the sc though, I think it was after). Come S3 the RB 7 was clearly faster and the Maccas couldn't get in DRS range.

Bu still, you'd expect Button to try snack his nose in when Hamilton and Webber were fighting. He just sat there.
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myurr wrote:
n smikle wrote:Macca got smashed on race pace, especially on the softs. I was sweating profusely when Webber was catching up.. only by the gift of KERS and a bit of luck with the track layout were Mclaren able to hold on. :) They say mclaren is close now, but I am still not really comforatable for 2012, redbull still got that bit extra - they control the race a bit too much nowadays.

RedBull are quite clever nowadauys. They had us all fooled Sacrificong qualifying pace for race pace - it was almost a giveaway when they ran the supersofts in Q2. but Alas, dry running was limited throughout the weekend so it was hard to set up the cars.
McLaren just had the wrong setup. Both cars had massive understeer despite cranking on the front wing, something we haven't seen them have so far this year.
Maybe McLaren found rear DF and don't have enough front DF to cope with it

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Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
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raymondu999 wrote:Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
I don't think they had any issue with speed, at all, just purely and simply, their car was not set up to deal with the primes because they got too little running on them.

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raymondu999 wrote:Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
They made it using the fresh supersoft front tires which supplied the lack of front df, alongside the fact that with low fuel you need less front df :)

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very disappointing ...just when it looked that McLaren looked to have caught up with RBR [ and to some extent also ferrari due to the low tyre usage ] RBR show that they still have a big performance advantage

or was it just that McLaren had their set up all wrong ?

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Its nice to talk 'bout the Big Guns of F1, but I think there is room for commenting on some of the other Drivers/Teams.

The Drivers & Constructors has been delt with, now the focus should go on what is behind Red Bull & possibly even further back.

Jaime Alguersuari had a great race & now the Toro Rosso are just 3 Points shy of overtaking SauberF1 & judging by todays performance where both STR's finished in points compared to both Sauber's - I think it just may happen.

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Yes I think Algie drove fantastically; hounding Rosberg down.

I found it rather hilarious that Alonso said "I give up" just before post in ga fastest lap 7 tenths quicker than JB.

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raymondu999 wrote:Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
They made it using the fresh supersoft front tires which supplied the lack of front df, alongside the fact that with low fuel you need less front df :)
Fine! Fair point :P Actually I was thinking more along the lines of them gearing up for better rear so that they could have better stability and DRS through Turns 7 and 8
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raymondu999 wrote:Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
Perhaps with aggressive driving that couldn't be maintained due to tyre wear.

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finishline wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Kind of raises the question how they got pole yesterday with so many technical infield bits
Perhaps with aggressive driving that couldn't be maintained due to tyre wear.
Track temperature was 10 degrees higher yesterday as well which likely altered the way the car handled.

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Javert wrote:Maybe McLaren found rear DF and don't have enough front DF to cope with it
They've had a stronger front end than Red Bull all year though, with plenty of grip. I'm convinced it was just a setup issue.