Ferrari F2012 (pre-launch speculation)

[Lurk]

They also need a tail

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

But nose cones primary function isn't downforce is it?

More about moving the air as cleanly as possible to other parts of the car, or as streamlined as possible...(hence high noses) with minimal drag, no?

[raymondu999]

Yes; my point being they need to channel air too. Low drag doesn't necessarily do that.

[italian]

But nose cones primary function isn't downforce is it?

More about moving the air as cleanly as possible to other parts of the car, or as streamlined as possible...(hence high noses) with minimal drag, no?

Yes, this is its function. Maybe, as aleksanderthegreat said, they want "clean-air" near the airbox.

[Tozza Mazza]

Hate to spoil your party, but this is banned in 2012!

People are misinterpreting the 'low nose' regulations in 2012, as lowering the nose tip. These people are wrong. It lowers the base of the nose. This nose has not been lowered at the base.

Here is a sketch I did a few weeks ago. It shows why this nose design is banned. The front of the tub must be 275mm high, even if it's moved forward.

To make it legal, it'll have to look something like this (if we're keeping the bottom of the tub as a linear line, which I understand it wouldn't, but it's definately not the most efficient design!

I'm a fan of the table top design, shown below, it's basically a 2011 design moved down 75mm, so the dash bulkheads are lower.

The other possibility is having a design like this.

I haven't taken into account any V style noses in these drawings.

[aral]

That nose is totally legal. The tip of the nose has to be lower, and this one is. It echoes, fairly closely, a design shown about three weeks ago, in the Italian press, except that the one shown then had a less smoothed down, step.
I would be sure that Ferrari are fully aware of what is legal.

[Tyler]

You're right Tozza, that won't be legal.
It's such a nice drawing just started thinking it was legal - should have remembered Scarb's drawings of the 2012 nose regs, it's easy to see from them that it's not legal as your drawings above have also correctly shown us.
I'm afraid that based on Scarb's drawings and those above, there's a possibility that we may see something that is truly ugly! - what a pity, I was looking forward to seeing some 'dolphin nose' cars on the grid

Gilgen that drawing in the Italian press had that 'bump' much further back, exactly like in Scarb's drawings - have a look at Scarb's drawings, they confirm what Tozza has shown us above - I think Tozza is right about it not being legal

[Tozza Mazza]

That nose is totally legal. The tip of the nose has to be lower, and this one is. It echoes, fairly closely, a design shown about three weeks ago, in the Italian press, except that the one shown then had a less smoothed down, step.
I would be sure that Ferrari are fully aware of what is legal.

WRONG. It's not the tip, its the base of the nose, which will force the tip down a little, read the regulations.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THIS ON THIS FORUM!?!

Ferrari aren't going to show the press there new car early are they?

It was drawn by a journalist, who made a mistake.

[raymondu999]

I would be sure that Ferrari are fully aware of what is legal.

But whoever drew that picture of the dolphin nose; might not.

[Tozza Mazza]

I would be sure that Ferrari are fully aware of what is legal.

But whoever drew that picture of the dolphin nose; might not.

Is it just me who thinks that nose is just an F10?

Okay not quite, but it looks like an F10 mashup with a poor attempt at drawing 2012 nose regs.

[raymondu999]

Looks more like an F60 with a tumor to me.

[amouzouris]

What if the bulb is not at the top of the nose but at the bottom?? cause i remember watching the flying lap last week..the car scarbs drew for 2012 had something like a bulb below the nose...

[Tozza Mazza]

What if the bulb is not at the top of the nose but at the bottom?? cause i remember watching the flying lap last week..the car scarbs drew for 2012 had something like a bulb below the nose...

As long as it is infront of the front bulkhead, and the front bulkhead is 275mm deep, and has a max height of 550mm above the reference plane, it's legal.

[amouzouris]

here it is...40 minutes and 52 seconds in....0:40:52...have a look at the nose!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUzQ8Ec2NUQ[/youtube]

[hardingfv32]

What is the value of a concave top nose surface?

Brian