Scuderia Ferrari 2012

[hardingfv32]

There is no evidence indicating how important the exhaust location is the year. Chances are good that the exhaust has less than 10% of the performance influence of last year.

Last year Ferrari had a correctly placed exhaust and they were still generally a little off the pace. There is a good chance they still do not have the proper mix of compromises to put them on top. They have a lot more than exhaust location to solve for.

Brian

[shelly]

I have not seen any official recognition of Hennel's role yet. Also curious to see what will J. Heal position in the structures department.

My opinion on Prodromou: he would take aero chief or chief designer role - cfd leader is not is current job, it would be a back step as now in rbr he is chief aero (ie boss to wt leader and cfdleader)

[radosav]

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news ... 30609.html

That's very odd.

ferrari are trying to get Schumi back, but first they have to see how older people cope with motion sickness, that is why they are using Salo.

[Moanlower]

Maybe i'm in denial but I don't believe what Ferrari (Fry) says in the media. First the announcement about the drivers being forbidden to give interviews after Massa said they're making good progression and shortly after that a cheeky interview with Fry who's talking down the exhaust solution and therefore taking a few steps back..

I understand there was a LOT of work testing all the parts in different combinations and starting the setup from basically zero, but I refuse to believe it's as bad as they shine through. They learned from last year and I think they prefer to play the underdog hence expectations being lower with a bit less disappointment if they don't run at the front from the start and more excitement if they do. I expect at least one Ferrari in the first 2 rows of the startgrid in Melbourne! Smoke, mirrors and reflections..

[amouzouris]

i dont think that what they are saying about lack of downforce and bad tyre degradation is not true...i just think that its not as bad as they say it is...

[WhiteBlue]

Montezemolo:

"I hope that it is not true that we are going to suffer at the beginning, even though Alonso is always very objective - thundered Montezemolo -, I would like to understand why and above all understand quickly, very quickly, what needs to be done".

You need to fire yourself. The fish stinks from the head.

[mx_tifoso]

That would be assuming that there's any stinking at all, which I don't think there is. A top three car is hardly an abomination, but yet a GP hasn't been run so it's probably best to reserve any judgement until then.

But I do admit that Montezemolo should speak in public a lot less.

[kalinka]

Pat Fry interview detail ( read here on F1T ) :
http://www.f1technical.net/news/17114?s ... 14d7b94c65

"I think we can claw back, at best, at least 25% of the downforce we had last year, even if we need to see what that costs us in fuel consumption and corner turn-in stability. "

That fuel consumption part is interesting. Doesn't it mean that they are still able to use some hot-blowing ? How otherwise could downforce be realated to fuel consumption

[ema00]

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/15858/ ... ella-f2012

Ferrari's going to change the monocoque?

the test's data reveals that the ferrari sidepod design doesn't permit the passage of the air flow required to have a sufficient downforce to the rear. Tombazis has already re-designed the sidepods but to change them ferrari needs to change the chassis and so get to pass another crash test.

the F2012B will be ready maybe in Barhein, it's quite impossible to see the new solution in Australia.

The FIA permits a new crash test because the rule that imposes to have only one chassis in a season does not exist for this season... in fact it seems that other three teams ask to the FIA to do another crash test. It could be for the F-Duct solution to the rear that distinguishes Mercedes (and maybe RBR). This F-Duct works with air passage in the monocoque, this explains why the team interested in introducing the F-D have to pass another crash test.

[radosav]

ferrari denies it http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17285060

[lombers]

I guess if they remove the acer pods this could change a side impact test, but who knows...

[Hail22]

ferrari denies it http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17285060

I don't buy it, lets wait and see in Melbourne shall we?

I sense they are going for a new concept come Melbourne, possibly new sidepods/exhaust considering they will search for 30-40 points of down force.

[Crabbia]

for the last three years the Italian press says there is a b spec in the works. they even did it with the F150° after AUS last year even though it looked impressive in testing. they did it with the f10 before that and the f60 before that.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

for the last three years the Italian press says there is a b spec in the works. they even did it with the F150° after AUS last year even though it looked impressive in testing. they did it with the f10 before that and the f60 before that.

Yes they did. Andrew Benson just posted an article and he says Ferrari dismissed changing things to the point the car needed to re-pass the crash protection tests. Lots of rumors because it's believed the car is very bad. I don't think it's as bad as many believe.

Also, I'm inclined to agree regarding the flo-vis pictures.

[radosav]

ferrari denies it http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17285060

I don't buy it, lets wait and see in Melbourne shall we?

I sense they are going for a new concept come Melbourne, possibly new sidepods/exhaust considering they will search for 30-40 points of down force.

who knows if we will even notice big difference in melbourne.upgrades may be to small to know if they made new chassis or just small improvements in sidepod area. i mean, they could redesigne chassis and make another crash test and still denie it, it is ferrari.