Rooting for Hamilton, obviously
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Mark Webber has won the Grand Prix of Great Britain for the second time in three years after a late charge on Fernando Alonso. The Spaniard suffered in his final stint and lost the win 5 laps from the end. With Alonso second, Sebastian Vettel finished third to make this a great result for Red Bull Racing.
The current forecast is for a very wet start, with the rain slowly drying out, but it's rather a fantasy that you can predict this kind of weather a day in advance.LHamilton wrote:Fingers crossed for dry start tomorrow and hard rain somewhere around two thirds of the race, which will see people putting on wet tyres straight away and continuing til the end.
Rooting for Hamilton, obviously
I fully expect, looking at the forecast, that we'll have an hour long wait and then 20 laps of safety car bollockszyphro wrote:I hope it's wet, but not to the point where they'll be stuck on the grid for eternity.
Unfortunately that's the way the FIA roll these days. And you can guarantee that you hear some drivers on the radio saying it's too wet to race until they're ready to pit for slicks.beelsebob wrote:I fully expect, looking at the forecast, that we'll have an hour long wait and then 20 laps of safety car bollockszyphro wrote:I hope it's wet, but not to the point where they'll be stuck on the grid for eternity.
Mmm I dunno about that. The issue is standing water, with all 24 cars going around at the same time with light rainfall; it wouldn't be such a big problem.myurr wrote:Unfortunately that's the way the FIA roll these days. And you can guarantee that you hear some drivers on the radio saying it's too wet to race until they're ready to pit for slicks.beelsebob wrote:I fully expect, looking at the forecast, that we'll have an hour long wait and then 20 laps of safety car bollockszyphro wrote:I hope it's wet, but not to the point where they'll be stuck on the grid for eternity.
The rule is that if under 10% of the race is completed rounded up to the next whole lap then no points are awarded (6 laps for Silverstone) with under 75% of the race distance is covered but more than 10% then half points are on offer, and if over 75% rounded up to the nearest whole lap is completed then full points are on offer (39 laps for Silverstone) for the drivers and constructors to take home.RB_[Gnx] wrote:Following what happened in last year's Canadian GP and knowing that this year GP cannot exceed 4 hours what Happens if the circuit is somehow "flooded" and we are nearly close to the 4 hours ( Red Flags? Safety Cars? ) Knowing that the rain there is pretty odd .. Do the 75% rule applies and half of the points are assigned?
which is fine, except they dont even let them race when they are not aquaplaning.andartop wrote:It would be worth asking the drivers about it rather than the fans. Alonso and Webber talked about 2 issues in the post quali press conference: standing water and visibility. It's funny how a freak accident can stir discussions about banning open cockpit racing but aquaplaning is seen by some as something the drivers should be able to "cope with". It is not, as it has nothing to do with driver skill but is all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Having said that I do hate it when they start the race behind the safety car and I do hate it even more when they red flag it. Thankfully, the FIA seem to care more about driver safety than pleasing me (when it comes to this issue). If they found a way to prevent aquaplaning (by further increasing the ride height, improving track drainage or whatever) that's fine by me, but with current car design and rules I'm with Charlie on this one. A multi-million pound worth pile of wrecked F1 cars and driver parts is not my idea of entertainment!
Tried to +1 you but it refused to work. But I agree. Since the switch to Pirelli they have been much more cautious with full wet conditions. Yes it's difficult, but they used to race in those conditions and deal with it, and I'd like to see a return to that. Think of all the great drives that we would never have witnessed had the current caution been in place.fiohaa wrote:which is fine, except they dont even let them race when they are not aquaplaning.andartop wrote:It would be worth asking the drivers about it rather than the fans. Alonso and Webber talked about 2 issues in the post quali press conference: standing water and visibility. It's funny how a freak accident can stir discussions about banning open cockpit racing but aquaplaning is seen by some as something the drivers should be able to "cope with". It is not, as it has nothing to do with driver skill but is all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Having said that I do hate it when they start the race behind the safety car and I do hate it even more when they red flag it. Thankfully, the FIA seem to care more about driver safety than pleasing me (when it comes to this issue). If they found a way to prevent aquaplaning (by further increasing the ride height, improving track drainage or whatever) that's fine by me, but with current car design and rules I'm with Charlie on this one. A multi-million pound worth pile of wrecked F1 cars and driver parts is not my idea of entertainment!
Aquaplaning should be the trigger point for red/flag or safety car. They dont even allow it to get to that anymore, they see a few cars spinning off from getting caught out in changing conditions, panic, and stop the racing.
there were plenty of races in the last decade and before (spa 98 anyone?) where they let them race, and the best drivers adjusted and coped.
canada last year was pathetic, or even malaysia where they use safety car until the conditions are good for intermediates - why bother producing full wet tyres then, if they dont let them race in conditions which require full wets?