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Team: Adrian Newey (CTO), Petr Prodromou (CA), Rob Marshall (CD), Christian Horner (TP)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (1), Mark Webber (2), Sebastian Buemi (reserve)
That usually means the opposite. Their gearing is too long for non DRS use and low DF will destroy tyres.dxpetrov wrote:Again, RB very good in speed traps. Hopefully it will pay dividends for the race. They may have been experimenting with less drag/downforce for the racier car...
The rule that tools are required for setup changes is so that the 'no setup changes in Parc Ferme' can be enforced - other than that the front wing which can be adjusted (which I wasn't aware of!). Article 34.5 of the F1 regulations.Nando wrote:From what i read it was done by hand when you needed a tool for it normally.
That's irrelevant.dxpetrov wrote:So, whatever they do is wrong, and yet somehow they end up winning races...
So now that we've seen Lotus version can we presume that they were testing similar system with this solution back at winter testing or was this just testing DRS mechanism positioned in centre pillar ? We'll see if this returns at some point in 2nd half of season.Forza wrote:RB8 had the center pillar at some point at winter testing.
No only the cheating is wrong, and its starting to look like cheating may have accounted for some of their pace for the race wins you're crowing about.dxpetrov wrote:So, whatever they do is wrong, and yet somehow they end up winning races...
I'd like to know what recourse the FIA had. Horner admitted it could be done by hand, but claimed they always did it using tools (presumably more reliable precision when using tools? Also, why would they not have had the same parts on the car in all the races, as Horner suggested it had been used in some other races only?). In other words, Horner admitted they broke the rules, which state it should not be possible to do it by hand.Pup wrote:So for how long has this been going on?
The other teams have been accusing RB of changing the ride height since early 2010. They gave the FIA photo evidence I remember, but Charlie found nothing for two and a half seasons. It seems unlikely that, after years of controversy, RB would suddenly adopt the very system they've been accused of having. It's far more likely that this has just gone undetected all this time. So I wonder who Horner pissed off at the FIA that this secret was suddenly discovered. (Or is it really that easy to hide something like this from the FIA for two and a half years?)
Seems like the former tbh. It is a well known fact that F1 is a very political thing after all...Pup wrote:So I wonder who Horner pissed off at the FIA that this secret was suddenly discovered. (Or is it really that easy to hide something like this from the FIA for two and a half years?)
Well we've seen them do worse. Personally, I think that this is at least as bad as Honda's fuel trick, and I'm certainly of the opinion that if the teams aren't punished for stuff like this, then it only encourages them to cheat more. After all, what's the downside - having to play by the rules for a few races until you find another way to get around them?Ral wrote:So, if they hadn't just accepted their word for it, what could the FIA have done? Ie. would that have forced them to exclude RBR and from what? The race? The constructor's championship?
Do you really believe there's a single team on the grid that isn't doing one or more illegal things every race weekend? It's only cheating if you get caught and even then the FIA have pedanted their way into a lawyer-filled corner they can rarely get out of.Pierce89 wrote: Lastly, why the indignant tone? Do you really believe Red Bull is on the up and up?
