Ferrari F2012

[wesley123]

the engine rumor still stands!

It only stands for you until the end of the season when it is delayed and delayed again and finally in the last race, it's still not there.

[superdread]

the engine rumor still stands!

Maybe they tilt the engine sideways, it messes up one side a bit but the other one will be amazing.

[alogoc]

the engine rumor still stands!

It only stands for you until the end of the season when it is delayed and delayed again and finally in the last race, it's still not there.

how do you know it's not already applied?

[turbof1]

the engine rumor still stands!

It only stands for you until the end of the season when it is delayed and delayed again and finally in the last race, it's still not there.

how do you know it's not already applied?

How would you know it is? IMO there is no indication what so ever it is there or will get there.

[ecapox]

how do you know it's not already applied?

How would you know it is? IMO there is no indication what so ever it is there or will get there.

How do we keep arguing about the same ---?

[aral]

There is a rumour that Ferrari are going to turn their engine upside down, and are also turning it around.

For goodness sake, why not wait until Ferrari do in fact do something different, before filling the thread with nonsense.

[superdread]

how do you know it's not already applied?

How would you know it is? IMO there is no indication what so ever it is there or will get there.

How do we keep arguing about the same ---?

It's like pooing in the ocean, it bobs up right next to your head and it follows you when swimming away.

[turbof1]

There is a rumour that Ferrari are going to turn their engine upside down, and are also turning it around.

For goodness sake, why not wait until Ferrari do in fact do something different, before filling the thread with nonsense.

I actually heard they are trying to put the engine in an other dimension to safe up space. So far the FIA can't ban inter-dimensional parts; might be difficult for scrutineering though

[wesley123]

the engine rumor still stands!

It only stands for you until the end of the season when it is delayed and delayed again and finally in the last race, it's still not there.

how do you know it's not already applied?

Because then it would be something big news and something others would make a fuss about it. Also you want to tilt the engine without changing the sculpted bodywork? Yeah right, it's sounding even more stupid by every post. So unless they just cut a huge chunck of engine out of it and a huge chunk of gearbox so the rear end can look exactly the same, it didnt happen, and it won't happen.

But unless you want to prove otherwise that they had already done it, go ahead, I will be waiting for your proof that will never come

[alogoc]

Because then it would be something big news and something others would make a fuss about it. Also you want to tilt the engine without changing the sculpted bodywork? Yeah right, it's sounding even more stupid by every post. So unless they just cut a huge chunck of engine out of it and a huge chunk of gearbox so the rear end can look exactly the same, it didnt happen, and it won't happen.

But unless you want to prove otherwise that they had already done it, go ahead, I will be waiting for your proof that will never come

it doesn't need a new chassis and it was tested in FP1 Hungary and the angle is smaller than in 2010 and it was pre-planed for this car and the purpose is tire menagment and low fuel performance!

soon everyone will know!

[Richard]

Alogoc, you can have the last word * on this subject with your post above.

Now lets drop the tilted engine rumour until there is some new evidence. You've made your point and we'll have to wait and see if it is right or not. As a lot of the previous posts have pointed out and as I said in my earlier PM, repeating "I have a rumour" isn't really helping a constructive conversation.

* The usual enforcement will apply to ensure the floater doesn't pop up again in the ocean

[Hail22]

I disappear for nearly a week and everything turns to poo.

The only logical technical aspect that I'm sure most of us will look forward to seeing would be the rear suspension update(no not a different system...simply updated), the new front wing with endplates (the problem is, is that the failure/remedy was discovered a few days before the "forced" factory holiday).

I would assume a passive/Hybrid version of DDRS "may" rear its ugly head out...however I don't feel Ferrari will use it until Monza which will be the point of no return. What I mean by that is Ferrari are most likely hedging their bets that Monza will be the true turning point to a more positive charge to the tail end of the season.

I don't feel a rapid change will occur in Spa...perhaps testing new parts...but surely not racing them until at least Monza...

In reference to the fuel...Shell always aims at testing new chemicals/energy compounds all the time at Ferrari...however with the regulations as they are its near impossible to gain a "real" advantage...perhaps something to aid engine reliability/safeguarding the engines cylinders with a new chemical compound/additive also they may have found a way to reduce the burn rate of the fuel (better economy = less fuel needed in the tank = better race strategy?)

[F1.Ru]

[.............] In reference to the fuel...Shell always aims at testing new chemicals/energy compounds all the time at Ferrari...however with the regulations as they are its near impossible to gain a "real" advantage...perhaps something to aid engine reliability/safeguarding the engines cylinders with a new chemical compound/additive also they may have found a way to reduce the burn rate of the fuel (better economy = less fuel needed in the tank = better race strategy?)

+1

I m with you, caz F1 fuel is highly restricted by its elements, compound structure, its density, its temperature etc.... so making a very big gain in this regards is almost impossible. If it was possible then Ferrari will not be the worst fuel efficient engine with its current V8's. If they can or any other can achieve better fuel efficiency by just playing with the fuel then Renault engine will not have the fuel economy advantage for that long [since the start of the V8 generation]. again they can surely bring changes in the fuel that will help in engine reliability issues and may be with a very little fuel economy but not much.With this year's very competitive field those little changes may create higher effect/result then they are worth.

And for SPA and rest of the races Ferrari will certainly continue their upgradation program in full swing. Every update brought today is the result of 2/3 months research and every team planed their updates almost 2/3 months back. so mid season break in my view don't effect that much. [as u know that they shut their factory but not their mind nor their brain or their personal computer and i heard that even someone draws future updates with his pencil in this break so they never really shut the whole process]..

For me the real big updated will be a passive DDRS like lotus, which works in full race not like Merc whose works only if DRS is employed and in quali. and a better trimmed cock bottle zone with more sculpted sidepod to reduce drag and increase the volume of airflow pass over the diffuser and make it work better, and more importantly a more effective solution of their exhaust [though i cant say how but it can always improved right...] which will result in better tire management and more downforce.....

[PlatinumZealot]

New exhausts are coming.

[turbof1]

Back to acer ducts?