Telemetry chart - McLaren Spa 2012

[jdlive]

It's obvious what he's doing, he either wants more money or wants a break-up with Mclaren.

I'm guessing he wants to leave since he's probably (over)loaded already.

[Stradivarius]

What I don't understand is how the team got this wrong with Hamilton if there really was such a big difference in favour of Button's setup. Hamilton tries to point out that Button had an obvious advantage over him, due to the choise of rear wing. So how could they fail to see the benefit of higher top speed prior to qualifying? Could it simply be that Hamilton wasn't able to survive sector 2 without loosing much more time than Button did? Since Button obviously was prepared well enough to comfortably take pole position and win the race, McLaren must have had some idea of what they were doing, despite loosing the friday practise sessions due to rain. Or was this an attempt to distribute the risk so they would at least have one competitive car? I still think it's strange that they would make the wrong decision with Hamilton. Given the standings in the championship, it would make more sense to give Hamilton the most probable winning setup.

If I remember correctly, the same thing happened at Monza 2 years ago as well. Hamilton chose a different rear wing to Button and blamed this choise after being beaten by Button in qualifying. (Also in that race Hamilton crashed into the first turn and retired.)

[bhall]

For a sense of context

Very interesting.

It looks to me like Hamilton was just outclassed. He lost time in places where his setup theoretically should have been an advantage.

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If I remember correctly, the same thing happened at Monza 2 years ago as well. Hamilton chose a different rear wing to Button and blamed this choise after being beaten by Button in qualifying. (Also in that race Hamilton crashed into the first turn and retired.)

I think we can probably give Hamilton a pass for that one. He took conventional wisdom and ran with a Monza-spec wing, whereas Button kept the F-duct. The race result means we don't really know if it was the right choice or not. But, it's hard to argue against using a Monza-spec wing at Monza.

If anything, perhaps this weekend was an overcompensation of sorts for that choice. No F-duct this time, though.

[beelsebob]

I don't really get what people are saying about hamilton not making up time in the high downforce areas. You can see that his apex speeds are significantly above button's in Pouhon, Fanges and Stavelot, not only that, but the time delta graph goes only in one direction (hamilton's) through sector 2.

[bhall]

(Indeed, Richard, but the video wasn't on this page, yanno?)

I don't really get what people are saying about hamilton not making up time in the high downforce areas. You can see that his apex speeds are significantly above button's in Pouhon, Fanges and Stavelot, not only that, but the time delta graph goes only in one direction (hamilton's) through sector 2.

He screwed up at LaSource, Campus and the bus stop - is that still the bus stop? - and those errors marked the biggest losses of time. That's obvious from the comparison video, as is the fact that DRS did a lot to mitigate the effects of his sub-optimal setup.

[alelanza]

Bigger picture

Looking quickly at the delta, what i don't understand is that it appears like LH catches up to Jenson in the chicane, and then ends up what looks like only 1 or 2 hundreths behind JB, so i'm guessing these weren't their best laps and it also doesn't explain the 8 tenths diff in quali, thoughts?

[turbof1]

I kinda don't understand the fuss about him putting it on twitter any other that it goes against the principle of sharing intern information. Yes I know other teams will be studying this, but how much of information are they going to pull out of that, that really benefits them?

[marcush.]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102214

lowe admits to it´s not about any important information slip but:
we do not share data with the world

WHY ? we as we know nothing really can derive some nice information from it making us understand the sport better .ANY serious race engineer in f1 or lower series will just shrug and move on with important things in life as he can look up dta plots as these all day long.
There are lots of possibilities to get these data without even touching any of mclaren data and just using official data .
I personally don´t understand at all what the fuzz is about ..with people moving from one team to another potentially taking big bags of much more delicate information with them.Hamsy shared the dataprint after q3 so no possibility at all to change cars ...and as lewis did not even make corner 1 and button won anyways .what´s to be gleaned from it if you live breath and are formula 1 24/7?
They are so wrong keeping away the fans from the really intersting bits ..my view .
I have always kept my books open in racing and was happy to discuss general things with other people /competitors sure you will not give away your latest trick but when you see someone struggling badly and you got a helping hand to lend ..you have to do so.Interestingly they share information with FI and Marrussia as they are prepared to pay for it..

[elFranZ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102214

lowe admits to it´s not about any important information slip but:
we do not share data with the world

WHY ? we as we know nothing really can derive some nice information from it making us understand the sport better .ANY serious race engineer in f1 or lower series will just shrug and move on with important things in life as he can look up dta plots as these all day long.
There are lots of possibilities to get these data without even touching any of mclaren data and just using official data .
I personally don´t understand at all what the fuzz is about ..with people moving from one team to another potentially taking big bags of much more delicate information with them.Hamsy shared the dataprint after q3 so no possibility at all to change cars ...and as lewis did not even make corner 1 and button won anyways .what´s to be gleaned from it if you live breath and are formula 1 24/7?
They are so wrong keeping away the fans from the really intersting bits ..my view .
I have always kept my books open in racing and was happy to discuss general things with other people /competitors sure you will not give away your latest trick but when you see someone struggling badly and you got a helping hand to lend ..you have to do so.Interestingly they share information with FI and Marrussia as they are prepared to pay for it..

If, by mistake or not, I should disclose ANY information about what I'm working on, I'd loose my job in a couple minutes, no matter what info leaks; that's the way my company, and many others in the IT business, works.
The same apply to F1 teams; they are real companies, not just mechanics, engineers and drivers.
Lewis move on twitter was not fair, let's be honest. To me it's a clear sign there's something wrong in renewing his contract.

[astracrazy]

To me it's a clear sign there's something wrong in renewing his contract.

Perhaps he wants to be pure no. 1?

[aero expert 807]

I kinda don't understand the fuss about him putting it on twitter any other that it goes against the principle of sharing intern information. Yes I know other teams will be studying this, but how much of information are they going to pull out of that, that really benefits them?

If he starts this bad habbit of posting this info, one day he will post something that is valuable information

[astracrazy]

If he starts this bad habbit of posting this info, one day he will post something that is valuable information

It's not in his interest to do that but perhaps the team will be more careful what he is given in the future.

[aero expert 807]

If he starts this bad habbit of posting this info, one day he will post something that is valuable information

It's not in his interest to do that but perhaps the team will be more careful what he is given in the future.

If they do that he will be on twiiter complaining about it.

[turbof1]

I kinda don't understand the fuss about him putting it on twitter any other that it goes against the principle of sharing intern information. Yes I know other teams will be studying this, but how much of information are they going to pull out of that, that really benefits them?

If he starts this bad habbit of posting this info, one day he will post something that is valuable information

The question is: how valuable is the information the driver gets? I don't see him getting windtunnel information, that is somethng for the engineers. But yeah, I can see your point. Though I think this kind of information should be open to the fans anyhow.

[chepoi]

Interesting data overlay that Lewis Hamilton has posted on Instagram: http://instagram.com/p/PETRF0r08G/

Mod Edit... Also see viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10557 for a similar chart from Monaco 2011

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