Telemetry chart - McLaren Spa 2012

[simon174]

I don´t think this is a comparison of Lewis and Jensons Lap...
Jenson hit in his Polelap on the straight before turn 5 as well as on the straight before turn 18 the limiter. (Take a look at the pole Lap on youtube). So his speed trace would be flat at the end of the straight, and the reached topspeed would be on both occasions the same. But in this cart the speed is monotonically increasing, and it shows higher speed before turn 18 than before turn 5.

As well the time delta is nowhere near the laptime difference happend during qualifing, moreover it looks like the laptime delta is near zero at the end of the lap.

I think this is the result of a computer simulation, which states that both setups would be equally fast, and lead lewis to choose the high DF setup to safe tires.

[Chuckjr]

If Lewis wants number 1 position then he should earn it

So far during a duration of more than 2 and half seasons, Jenson has accumulated more points (+1) and podiums (+3) than Lewis. Lewis has more wins (+1).

I agree completely.

Those are telling numbers. I really hope he leaves Macca. It's the only way we will really know if he is worth the salt so many people seem to think he is. Put him in the environment he wants, being #1 and in a car spacificslly developed to enhance his skill set, and then the lap times will show if he truly has the gift or not. We've never been able to see that since he started his f1 career at a top team. If I were him, I'd be on the phone with Sauber and Lotus today.

[RB7ate9]

If Lewis wants number 1 position then he should earn it

So far during a duration of more than 2 and half seasons, Jenson has accumulated more points (+1) and podiums (+3) than Lewis. Lewis has more wins (+1).

I agree completely.

Those are telling numbers. I really hope he leaves Macca. It's the only way we will really know if he is worth the salt so many people seem to think he is. Put him in the environment he wants, being #1 and in a car spacificslly developed to enhance his skill set, and then the lap times will show if he truly has the gift or not. We've never been able to see that since he started his f1 career at a top team. If I were him, I'd be on the phone with Sauber and Lotus today.

I would love to see him in a Sauber. I think Sauber as a smaller team would, ironically, have less inclination to put up with any fits because they simply couldn't afford it. With such little time and less funds compared to the other teams to put pace into their cars, they would straighten him out right quick if he started throwing tantrums or attempted some form of a takeover to be #1 driver no matter what. And, because they can't afford to lose any ground to the competition in the mid-field to upper-field, this tweet would've been dealt with VERY harshly.

[Shrieker]

Lotus ... Sauber ?!? Have you gone bonkers ? Sauber is a team that will bend to Ferrari's will if they're instructed to do so lol. Even if they pay (which they never can) double the amount, Lewis simply will never go there.

Lewis is 10-2 ahead of Button in qualifying this season. Now, the team has messed up both drivers' races from time to time, but the worst happened to Lewis a couple of times. If you remove the team's errors for both drivers Lewis would be so much ahead of Jenson in the table right now. For a sane team management that's more than convincing enough to give one driver no 1 status over the other. Arguing otherwise is not even funny - the facts say it all. That's what pisses Lewis I guess.

[RB7ate9]

Lotus ... Sauber ?!? Have you gone bonkers ? Sauber is a team that will bend to Ferrari's will if they're instructed to do so lol. Even if they pay (which they never can) double the amount, Lewis simply will never go there.

Lewis is 10-2 ahead of Button in qualifying this season. Now, the team has messed up both drivers' races from time to time, but the worst happened to Lewis a couple of times. If you remove the team's errors for both drivers Lewis would be so much ahead of Jenson in the table right now. For a sane team management that's more than convincing enough to give one driver no 1 status over the other. Arguing otherwise is not even funny - the facts say it all. That's what pisses Lewis I guess.

With all the rumors going around with the silly season, bonkers is pretty normal. I never said Lewis would go to Sauber, I just thought it'd be an interesting change in dynamic if he did. Either they'd slap him together or they would rally around him 110%. What better way for all of the Hamilton naysayers to be put in their place than to have him go to a midfield team and start gathering GP wins like they're Halloween candy?

Besides, the only person around that's gone bonkers is Lewis - pissed at management or not - for actually posting pictures of team telemetry!

[Shrieker]

Alonso did a similar thing in 2007 (sabotage his teammate's qualy run) and got booted by the season's end. Judging by how things have been going for a while now, they may not offer Lewis the contract he deserves. They might not give him one at all.

[PlatinumZealot]

An insider said that Lewis was coaxed into using the old wing even though he wanted the new wing. By the time Q came around, he realised the wing was one second slower the team was economical with the truth an it was too late to change. That is why he reacted by posting the Telemetry. I think the intention is to show that even twitter fans can see that the new wing was faster even though the Engineers kept telling him they were the same. It all makes sense now: I think the Engineers don't want him in the team they want Jenson to be their number one driver... it's a real conspiracy no joke.

[PlatinumZealot]

I don't think he was blaming the team in terms of being "given" a bad setup. I think he wanted to justify to the world the situation of himself being 8 tenths off Jenson's pace.

He was blaming them actually. Only he didn't blame them directly! It was reinforcement that he was right and they were wrong!

[raymondu999]

An insider said that Lewis was coaxed into using the old wing even though he wanted the new wing. By the time Q came around, he realised the wing was one second slower the team was economical with the truth an it was too late to change. That is why he reacted by posting the Telemetry. I think the intention is to show that even twitter fans can see that the new wing was faster even though the Engineers kept telling him they were the same. It all makes sense now: I think the Engineers don't want him in the team they want Jenson to be their number one driver... it's a real conspiracy no joke.

Source?

He was blaming them actually.

Prove it

[bhall]

I don't think he was blaming the team in terms of being "given" a bad setup. I think he wanted to justify to the world the situation of himself being 8 tenths off Jenson's pace.

He was blaming them actually. Only he didn't blame them directly! It was reinforcement that he was right and they were wrong!

That's readily apparent. But, it just made him look...

He screwed up his lap in Q3 on-track, and given the obvious motive behind positing the telemetry, I think it's fair to wonder if his errors were also intentional.

[Dann]

He was dead wrong whatever reason he used in exposing the tele data. Releasing him is the only logical thing to do.
As one football coach said; some people sees neighbour's field is greener, but it's not always true.
He may end up over-driving a slow car season after season.

[RB7ate9]

An insider said that Lewis was coaxed into using the old wing even though he wanted the new wing. By the time Q came around, he realised the wing was one second slower the team was economical with the truth an it was too late to change. That is why he reacted by posting the Telemetry. I think the intention is to show that even twitter fans can see that the new wing was faster even though the Engineers kept telling him they were the same. It all makes sense now: I think the Engineers don't want him in the team they want Jenson to be their number one driver... it's a real conspiracy no joke.

I don't know how much of the coaxing there might have been considering the state of the weather and the limitations from Free Practice.

Either way, this that or the other, new wing or old wing, coercion or no, you don't go against your team like this. You can complain to the twitterverse all you want, but at the end of the day, your entire team looks bad. The wheel-gun mechanic looks bad, the composites technician at the factory looks bad, the front desk clerk looks bad. The buck does, indeed, stop somewhere and the folks that helped make that final decision to keep the non-Spa wing will have to answer for it. But, this act doesn't justify it.

Lewis has had a history of voicing his frustration to his team, about his team. Those moments have always kept me from really getting behind Lewis or respecting his drive to championships. I won't bother comparing him to Alonso or whoever, because respecting the team enough to not do things like this is Motorsport Teamwork 101.

[CHT]

Alonso did a similar thing in 2007 (sabotage his teammate's qualy run) and got booted by the season's end. Judging by how things have been going for a while now, they may not offer Lewis the contract he deserves. They might not give him one at all.

what we are seeing could be a result of the fall out between LH and Mclaren. I wont be surprise they have already decided to go separate ways.

[raymondu999]

In all honesty, in raw talent Lewis is still very much one of maybe the top 2 or 3 on the grid. Even if McLaren doesn't outright want him (which I find unlikely) I'd think keeping Lewis away from other teams is motivation enough to hire him.

[astracrazy]

If Lewis wants number 1 position then he should earn it

So far during a duration of more than 2 and half seasons, Jenson has accumulated more points (+1) and podiums (+3) than Lewis. Lewis has more wins (+1).

You can't use the above to justify your statement. If you based number 1 spot on them statistics the number one spot would be changing week in week out.

Pre-spa:
Lewis has accumulated more points (+24) and more wins (+2). Button more podiums (+2). Quali results anyone?