FoxHound wrote:
gato azul wrote:So why try to bully your opinion onto everybody else.
You have lost me now Gato
Have I ?
Take a look for yourself and try to see.
FoxHound wrote:
You still don't grasp it do you? Newey was not employed by Mateschitz to make Torro Rosso win. His over riding responsibility was Red Bull.
I will repeat this again and again....
Keep repeating your opinions, still does not make it any more or less true.
But don't try to paint them as some facts, everyone else has to acknowledge.
Do you have any quotes from Mateschitz &/or Newey, expressing your sentiments about the STR win in 2008?
You can keep comparing RBR to MGP as much as you like and try to draw parallels and conclusions, but you don't know what
their respective business plans, roadmaps and time frames were.
What we know as a fact today is, that MGP has failed to reach their milestones/objectives, the guy in charge Norbert Haug has just said as much - and it cost him his job.
It matters little, if another team at the same time did better or worse.
You can rationalize the failures of the last 3 years as much as you like, and you can keep telling people, that all is well and all goes to plan.
That they (MGP) just need a bit more time and perhaps a bit more money, and then all will be good.
In the meantime the board of Daimler, has decided, that this was not quite what they had in mind, when they gave the green light to that project.
Therefore they decided that some changes are needed, to try and salvage the situation.
They lost faith/confidence in Haug to be able, to pull that thing back on track, so they decided to give someone else the job.
Now, if this will yield any positive results in the future remains to be seen, but they concluded that the guy(s) currently running the show, and getting them into this endeavor is not up to the task any longer.
It may still be a good plan on paper (competing in F1 with their own team), but only if you can pull it off in the way it was envisioned. Otherwise, it's just a money burning exercise, with no or negative impact on the core business.
One of the key shareholders must have seen it in a similar light, and decided to cash in his chips and go play somewhere else, leaving Daimler to pick up the tab.
Not sure if that was part of the original plan, but it will have an impact on the cost of the whole project as far as Daimler is concerned.
On a different note.
What are we making of the change in MD for MHPE?
Just a coincidence, planed since a long time anyway and not related to recent events, or part of a general senior management shake up for the whole F1 project?
Any reason for this? Any relation to the state of the 2014 engine project?