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Kimi Raikkonen has converted a brilliantly working 2-stop strategy to a race wing for Lotus, immediately confirming the long run pace of the E21. Fernando Alonso finished in second place, 10 seconds behind while Sebastian Vettel completes the podium in third.
Reason? Gearing and rake ...Ferraripilot wrote:Notice RB9 is running what appear to almost be a Spa specification rear wing. I do not believe they are as quick in the turns as some others but rather their speed is coming from reduced drag from the rear wing ...
Why would you sandbag at the time when you absolutely need to know the very limits of the car in each circumstance? In winter testing, yes, I can understand then, but not on a race weekend - there is nothing to be gained by under performing. You only have 3 sessions - very limited time to not only find the perfect setup, run race simulations, do a qualy run and usually also to test new parts. That's a lot of performance indictors to find in a short amount of time. So to deliberately hold back and loose that critical information, trying to 'fool' the others, seems a complete waste of precious time.JimClarkFan wrote: Alonso and Lewis are sandbagging, especially the Ferrari, that car looks like it has so much more time there. Vettel looks as if he is pushing but not giving it 100%, car looks good. Button looked like he was struggling to control the car.
I don't know what the representative times were for their respective laps but those RB/FE/MERC look great. The Macca seems to be a bit of a dog.
Anybody else seeing something similar?
Hey bob, the IRBR on that stint did an out lap and two timed laps, the Sauber did a race simulation (not sure on the amount of laps!)beelsebob wrote:Wow the sauber's tyres look ruined there.
Wow the RedBull's don't. How far had each gone?
I understand what you're saying - however it doesn't take a genius to read the whole range of sector times and deduce if a car is lifting deliberately - which is why I think it's pointless sandbagging.Nando wrote:But it´s not. You can just lift in one sector and take it at 90% instead of maximum to keep the competition thinking they are still in the ball park when they are really not anywhere close.
If you come out the gates one second clear you´ll create fuss you can be without before the actual race.
Let them find out on Saturday just how quick you are.
beelsebob wrote:Wow the sauber's tyres look ruined there.
Wow the RedBull's don't. How far had each gone?
Did you watch the videos that Raymondo posted? If no I suggested you do. Now we don't know what time was set on those laps, but it is OBVIOUS that Alonso is not flat out in some of the easier corners and the straights.Cam wrote:I understand what you're saying - however it doesn't take a genius to read the whole range of sector times and deduce if a car is lifting deliberately - which is why I think it's pointless sandbagging.Nando wrote:But it´s not. You can just lift in one sector and take it at 90% instead of maximum to keep the competition thinking they are still in the ball park when they are really not anywhere close.
If you come out the gates one second clear you´ll create fuss you can be without before the actual race.
Let them find out on Saturday just how quick you are.
If you're car is one second quicker - what does it matter to sandbag? A competitor team isn't going to spend 'extra' time trying to find an extra second that suddenly appears on a competitors car - they are pushing to be fastest in all areas all the time, regardless of the competition.
There was a quote (trying to find it) that mentioned that due to staff changes between teams - most know what the base fuel level is for each team. The teams use the same level each year to get consistent data. So if everyone knows anyway, why hide it?
That said, maybe they do.... I feel it's wasted on a race weekend.
