2013 Bahrain GP - Sakhir

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:VET doing close inspection of F138:
http://formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutton/2 ... rn2022.jpg
Was just about to post that...
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Anyone see what happened to Kimis lap? He was well off his q2 pace. Just wondering if he bobbled it or what sector he lost out in.

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How Webber starts 7th.?? If he qualified 5th, and -3 grid penalty he should start 8th??!

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raymondu999 wrote:
SiLo wrote:Massive advantage for people starting on the clean side of the grid though, I expect vettel to be at least 3rd by the first corner, Hamilton up a place as well and maybe even Massa losing out. Webber will get a crap start as usual and end up somewhere horrible.
I don't see it. Clean/dirty side has never been a major issue in Bahrain. Mind you - Webber will probably start --- again, Massa will get a bad start because he's on the primes, and Alonso probably will still outstart Vettel into T1 through the Ferrari start system in and of itself. Whether or not he takes the place remains to be seen IMO - I don't think Alonso has a big enough advantage to *fully* pass Vettel into T1 - they might still have to battle for the place under braking, and all the way up into T4.
I think 3rd place is on the outside, so if Alonso does get a good enough start, he can position himself to have the inside line into turn 2 (he did the same in 2010 and managed to jump Massa).

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ForzaFer wrote:How Webber starts 7th.?? If he qualified 5th, and -3 grid penalty he should start 8th??!
Hamilton qualified 4th, and has 5 place grid penalty so Webber goes back up 1 place to 7th.

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Gerhard Berger wrote:
ForzaFer wrote:How Webber starts 7th.?? If he qualified 5th, and -3 grid penalty he should start 8th??!
Hamilton qualified 4th, and has 5 place grid penalty so Webber goes back up 1 place to 7th.
Thanks, i see the logic behind it :D

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Gerhard Berger wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:
SiLo wrote:Massive advantage for people starting on the clean side of the grid though, I expect vettel to be at least 3rd by the first corner, Hamilton up a place as well and maybe even Massa losing out. Webber will get a crap start as usual and end up somewhere horrible.
I don't see it. Clean/dirty side has never been a major issue in Bahrain. Mind you - Webber will probably start --- again, Massa will get a bad start because he's on the primes, and Alonso probably will still outstart Vettel into T1 through the Ferrari start system in and of itself. Whether or not he takes the place remains to be seen IMO - I don't think Alonso has a big enough advantage to *fully* pass Vettel into T1 - they might still have to battle for the place under braking, and all the way up into T4.
I think 3rd place is on the outside, so if Alonso does get a good enough start, he can position himself to have the inside line into turn 2 (he did the same in 2010 and managed to jump Massa).
Yes he did the same last year as well I think and made up a couple of places? Plenty of room around the outside there, should be plenty of that going on.

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Yeah, As Martin Brundle explained, the penalties are handed out in the order they recieved the penalty. So, Gutierrez was put back to 22nd. Then Webber was put back to 8th, Then Hamilton was put back to 9th, therefore promoting Webber to 7th.
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Kiril Varbanov wrote:VET doing close inspection of F138:
http://formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutton/2 ... rn2022.jpg
Looking for the traction control button :wink:

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Look how ecstatic Brawn is about Rosberg's pole:
"To be honest, I didn't see it coming," "We didn't have things right. It's cooler than we expected today and that's a concern for tomorrow. It was tight and in the last run, he didn't push that hard, but he still put together a very good lap."

I bet it was like this:
- (Rosberg) Hey Ross, how do you feel about my pole position?
- (Brawn) Negative Nico, negative...

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Checking his seating arrangement for next year :wink:

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NathanOlder wrote:Yeah, As Martin Brundle explained, the penalties are handed out in the order they recieved the penalty. So, Gutierrez was put back to 22nd. Then Webber was put back to 8th, Then Hamilton was put back to 9th, therefore promoting Webber to 7th.
Funny because if webber qualified 4th and Hamilton 5th they would've still ended up the same place!!

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Jonnycraig wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:VET doing close inspection of F138:
http://formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutton/2 ... rn2022.jpg
Looking for the traction control button :wink:
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Mui wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Yeah, As Martin Brundle explained, the penalties are handed out in the order they recieved the penalty. So, Gutierrez was put back to 22nd. Then Webber was put back to 8th, Then Hamilton was put back to 9th, therefore promoting Webber to 7th.
Funny because if webber qualified 4th and Hamilton 5th they would've still ended up the same place!!
Yes they would and that's the main reason i don't like the way FIA sorted the grid for tomorrow. IMHO they should apply penalties simultaneously for all drivers and then move other drivers up or down

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Mui wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Yeah, As Martin Brundle explained, the penalties are handed out in the order they recieved the penalty. So, Gutierrez was put back to 22nd. Then Webber was put back to 8th, Then Hamilton was put back to 9th, therefore promoting Webber to 7th.
Funny because if webber qualified 4th and Hamilton 5th they would've still ended up the same place!!
Nope - Webber would then start 6th.
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