Robert Kubica has today informed Lotus Renault GP that he will not be ready for the start of the 2012 season, despite having started an intensive training programme. The Pole is still recovering from his really crash earlier this year and thereby gives the green light to LRGP to select its drivers for the 2012 campaign.
Did'nt he even Kimi Raikkonen's best result in a WRC rally car, fifth, with a WRC2 rally car? Probably even more impressive that he finished 2nd in Rally Finland (WRC2), only beaten by a local.MadMatt wrote:The man is asking for trouble. Anyway, he won Rally Deutschland, first event on proper tarmac, by a small 12 seconds!
I really want him to comeback to some form of track racing, ideally some form of open-wheel racing.woohoo wrote:Oh please Kubica, return to track racing, not gravel.
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Again he chashes the car.
F1 drivers just dont make good rally drivers. When Raikonnen drove rally, he crashed more than he should.
Just like no WRC drivers became F1 drivers, so can you not change from F1 to WRC.
What exactly is your point? That accidents can happen in motorsport to Kubica as well as any other driver? I didn't think of that.MadMatt wrote:Yep, he's still doing his best to get himself and his co-driver killed.
I remember certain gentleman from Scotland crashing a lot at the beginning of his career, to the point he was close to loosing factory seat. Yet today it's difficult to tell WRC history without mentioning his name.MadMatt wrote:The point is that he has a lot of money, therefore does not care about the cars. Of course you find the limit after you've crossed it, but the point is to get close to it, not OVER it. Same in racing. "To finish first, first you have to finish". I don't see how all these crashes (and there is A LOT in a short period of time), will help him. To me he is just a pay driver that got so much money to do rallying as a hobby and does not care.
He seem to have more speed than Raikkönen, but at least Kimi did not crash every 2 rally. I also think driving like that is a disrespect to his mechanics and to the team but that's just the car mechanic inside me talking. A bit like Ken Block if you ask me. Lot of money, want to have fun, doesn't care.
He crashed a lot, but not as much as Robert, and you knew he was special even at the very beginning while with Robert you just know he is fast, not extraordinary. There is also a lack of competition, and he hasn't competed on a proper WRC car against other proper WRC machines. To me he is taking way too much risks, and not bringing points for the team will not provide him a seat. Money yes. Again, just my 2 cents. I don't know why people defend him that much. François Duval was insulted for far less than that.noname wrote:I remember certain gentleman from Scotland crashing a lot at the beginning of his career, to the point he was close to loosing factory seat. Yet today it's difficult to tell WRC history without mentioning his name.MadMatt wrote:The point is that he has a lot of money, therefore does not care about the cars. Of course you find the limit after you've crossed it, but the point is to get close to it, not OVER it. Same in racing. "To finish first, first you have to finish". I don't see how all these crashes (and there is A LOT in a short period of time), will help him. To me he is just a pay driver that got so much money to do rallying as a hobby and does not care.
He seem to have more speed than Raikkönen, but at least Kimi did not crash every 2 rally. I also think driving like that is a disrespect to his mechanics and to the team but that's just the car mechanic inside me talking. A bit like Ken Block if you ask me. Lot of money, want to have fun, doesn't care.
And with all these crashed Robert somehow managed to grab the lead in the standings, in just his 1st full season.
I think reality disagrees with you, he just finished excellent 2nd in Finland (first attempt) and even better 1st in Germany.MadMatt wrote:He crashed a lot, but not as much as Robert, and you knew he was special even at the very beginning while with Robert you just know he is fast, not extraordinary. There is also a lack of competition, and he hasn't competed on a proper WRC car against other proper WRC machines. To me he is taking way too much risks, and not bringing points for the team will not provide him a seat. Money yes. Again, just my 2 cents. I don't know why people defend him that much. François Duval was insulted for far less than that.noname wrote:I remember certain gentleman from Scotland crashing a lot at the beginning of his career, to the point he was close to loosing factory seat. Yet today it's difficult to tell WRC history without mentioning his name.MadMatt wrote:The point is that he has a lot of money, therefore does not care about the cars. Of course you find the limit after you've crossed it, but the point is to get close to it, not OVER it. Same in racing. "To finish first, first you have to finish". I don't see how all these crashes (and there is A LOT in a short period of time), will help him. To me he is just a pay driver that got so much money to do rallying as a hobby and does not care.
He seem to have more speed than Raikkönen, but at least Kimi did not crash every 2 rally. I also think driving like that is a disrespect to his mechanics and to the team but that's just the car mechanic inside me talking. A bit like Ken Block if you ask me. Lot of money, want to have fun, doesn't care.
And with all these crashed Robert somehow managed to grab the lead in the standings, in just his 1st full season.
Now that is a major BS. He is driving WRC2 spec car and You probably know that its significantly slower than WRC specs car, right? Right. Despite that, Kubica has collected total of 14 WRC points to date and is 13th in general WRC classification. To make it more impressive, 8 out of 12 drivers in front of him, have scored their points in 9 events, not 5 as Robert.MadMatt wrote: There is also a lack of competition, and he hasn't competed on a proper WRC car against other proper WRC machines.
You seem to forget his numerous testing with the DS3 to start with which makes him not that unfamiliar with the car. You also forgot his results in the European Rally Championship where on 3 rallies he retired twice and finished 6th. You still want to talk about facts? If you got time get the ratio crashes/rallies entered, you won't be disappointed. He burned a Citroën C4 WRC, crashed an Impreza WRC, his DS3 numerous times (check the previous pages you'll find the videos of WHAT WAS FILMED).netoperek wrote:MadMatt I've no clue what Your opinion is based on. Robert is not having more trouble than anyone else who counts in Championship.In fact, its quite the opposite... He wouldn't be leading the table if it wasn't the case, would he?
In his total of 5 WRC2 rallies, he has been 6th in his very first rally on that level, in this specific car. Then it was 1st, 1st, 2nd and 1st. No DNFs. And in a slower car than some oppenents (compare his DS3 RRC to Fiesta R5, if You don't believe). How is that supposed to be an insult for mechanincs or "loosing team points?"
Now that is a major BS. He is driving WRC2 spec car and You probably know that its significantly slower than WRC specs car, right? Right. Despite that, Kubica has collected total of 14 WRC points to date and is 13th in general WRC classification. To make it more impressive, 8 out of 12 drivers in front of him, have scored their points in 9 events, not 5 as Robert.
I'm really looking forward for Your comment on some FACTs for a change
PS. Nothing personal, no offence intended.
