Schumacher ski accident, coma and recovery

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strad wrote:
know it hits home for me, and I'm probably going shopping for a better helmet this weekend, assuming there's one to be found.
Paleeeeezzzzzz....ya gotta be kidding. http://s22.photobucket.com/user/STRAD2/ ... d.gif.html
Not quite sure why you need to criticise that one Strad, but given your previous activities on other forums you wouldn't have taken kindly to other people giving you that sort of reaction.

Apparently police are looking into a helmet camera that Schumacher was wearing, can't provide a link this very second but it is in the French media as the original source, and currently on the Sky news website.

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strad wrote:
know it hits home for me, and I'm probably going shopping for a better helmet this weekend, assuming there's one to be found.
Paleeeeezzzzzz....ya gotta be kidding. http://s22.photobucket.com/user/STRAD2/ ... d.gif.html
Well, I was one of those kids who grew up without all the helmet nonsense. And I got knocked unconscious at least three times, had a couple of concussions, and I've got a nice scar over each eyebrow, one in the center of my forehead, and three more that are waiting for my hair to fall out so I can see them.

Fortunately, none of that left me too stupid to realize once helmets came out that wearing one might be something I should do.
2. Dismissing an idea.
I think you got that signature from me, did you not?

For clarity, I'm on a bike 3-4 days a week, regularly at either 20+ mph or on trails. Before reading that study, I thought that standard bike helmets were designed for that, but it seems they aren't. So, I'll get a better one - probably this one... http://www.pocsports.com/en/product/122 ... untry-mips

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Fans outside the hospital made this light projection birthday message. Pretty cool of them.

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Holm86 wrote:Fans outside the hospital made this light birthday message outside the hospital. Pretty cool of them.

http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs35171 ... enoble.jpg
Is it on hospital building? Well, I understand, but not like this idea that much.

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Looks like those are offices and not patient rooms they're shining those lights on. Hope so at least.


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Pup wrote:Before reading that study, I thought that standard bike helmets were designed for that, but it seems they aren't. So, I'll get a better one - probably this one... http://www.pocsports.com/en/product/122 ... untry-mips
I was going to recommend you look at POC: the helmet designer's helmet designer. The one you link is a good choice for the trails in the colder three seasons; I would expect to find it too hot if you're doing 20+ on the road in the summer.

Good news is that POC are readying a road program (Ryder Hesjedal was wearing their specs at the TdF last year). Velonews may have had pics of the prototype road helmet, or I saw it somewhere else, in any case it looks quite like the Trabec.

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Pup,, More than a helmet I might have concidered changing my riding style. *
I have never fallen and banged my head, including offs at speed from motorcycles, and that's inclusive of literally hundreds of thousands of miles. I have never personally known a bicycle rider to sustain any serious head injury in normal riding. One has to exclude competition or extreme riding, so I'm only speaking of normal day to day riding. Maybe I and everyone I know has been extremely lucky..I just know that studys have shown that when people wear head protection, including hard hats, they actually hit their heads more often because subconciously they feel protected. I have slid in mortorcycle accident on both my ass and high side superman style and my back and neck were sore for a long time but my subconcious was not going to let my head hit the pavement.
I have friends in the days since mandatory helmets, show me their skid lid and the more that "prove" they would have split their skulls..Problem with that is that without the added weight they wouldn't have bounced their head off the pavement. That and the fact that studys in N.Y and elsewhere showed that while deaths from head injury declined, deaths from broken necks skyrocketed.
I say let those that ride decide, but we have let it devolve into parental govenment that steals from me that right.
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*(that's a joke mate)
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He's riding trials, it's only a matter of time that you fall off and bang your head on something, it's also quite silly to suggest he shouldn't wear a helmet when he has all those head Injurys from falling off.

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strad wrote:Pup,, More than a helmet I might have concidered changing my riding style. *
I have never fallen and banged my head, including offs at speed from motorcycles, and that's inclusive of literally hundreds of thousands of miles. I have never personally known a bicycle rider to sustain any serious head injury in normal riding. One has to exclude competition or extreme riding, so I'm only speaking of normal day to day riding. Maybe I and everyone I know has been extremely lucky..I just know that studys have shown that when people wear head protection, including hard hats, they actually hit their heads more often because subconciously they feel protected. I have slid in mortorcycle accident on both my ass and high side superman style and my back and neck were sore for a long time but my subconcious was not going to let my head hit the pavement.
I have friends in the days since mandatory helmets, show me their skid lid and the more that "prove" they would have split their skulls..Problem with that is that without the added weight they wouldn't have bounced their head off the pavement. That and the fact that studys in N.Y and elsewhere showed that while deaths from head injury declined, deaths from broken necks skyrocketed.
I say let those that ride decide, but we have let it devolve into parental govenment that steals from me that right.
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*(that's a joke mate)
I'd put that in the same class as those who refuse to wear a seatbelt, yes occasionally some gets lucky not wearing it but for each of those millions are saved by using it

not too long ago the female European champion iron man crashed braking for some kids while training, broken skull and 12 days in coma ...

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I am all in favor of letting those who ride, decide. Just as long as they understand that not one PENNY of public funds will be expended to save their sorry asses when they get injured. If they die, they die. Can't get much closer to personal freedom than that. :idea:

Oh, freedom's just another word for nuthin left to lose......
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Michael Schumacher ski helmet camera 'examined' - http://bbc.in/1auK6QR

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Phillipe Streiff - Saillent Spelling? (The Neuro Doc) said Schumacher is in a serious condition, but no longer in life danger.

Source: Sky News

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http://www.bild.de/sport/motorsport/mic ... .bild.html

"Schumacher suffered earlier brain injury from 2009 Motocrash"


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Michael Schumacher has already suffered damage to his brains in 2009. The former Formula 1 driver ended up back in the hospital after a serious motorcycle accident. In that accident, a portion of his left brain was damaged. That says Schumacher physician Johannes Peil.

The left vertebral artery was then shattered. The artery supplies blood to the cerebellum (the small brains, ed.) The cerebellum is responsible for somebody's motoric skills.

this time, his right brain severely affected. The doctor does not think that the previous damage now affects his potential recovery.
Wow, so it turns out schumacher already had brain damage because of his 2009 motorcycle accident,
which also broke his neck (if i recall correctly).

I guess that's the reason he wasn't up to his full old shape in his new career.
Makes it all the more impressive honestly, that despite the brain injury, he was able to compete
almost at the front with a car that wasn't up to the desired level. Imagine if he didn't had that injury!
I think it's safe to say he'd brought that Merc to the win, actually.
wow, I believe my respect for schumacher's skills just gained a whole new level :shock:
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I'm not sure if we can conclude for sure that his motoric abilities really suffered from it as Peil also said that the the other arteria and some new built ones took over to supply blood to that brain area.
But the fact that he did not use it as an excuse is remarkable and shows that he is probably a greater person than I've always assumed he is.

Sabine Kehm just released a statement that any information regarding his health status that is not issued by the treating medics is not valid. So that means we can disregard Phillipe Streiff's remarks.