Ferrari 2014 Car Pre-launch Speculation

[Holm86]

Is there not also a power (or lack of power loss) advantage in having shorter exhausts?

You want the exhaust gasses to have as much speed and energy as possible when they hit the turbine. Shorter distance means less loss of speed and less heat dissapation. But weather its mesurable or not I dont know. I think its minuscule.

[Lazy]

I drew the ferrari engine with exhausts exiting upwards through the heads, not through the outer face of the head. This would keep exhausts short and keep the total engine installation much narrower.
The rules only demand the exhausts exit outboard of the cylinder bores centre line, the top exit exhausts meet this rule. Similar exhaust ports have been used on the lancia delta group B car and some BMW racing engines.

Would be tricky for cooling i would have thought.

[Ferraripilot]

This could be a game changer if true. Heat would be an issue. There's a lot of 'stuff' with various jobs crammed into a small space.

[bhall]

https://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/421403957060046849

[LookBackTime]

Rumours of secret Ferrari V6 test grow - report

Rumours Ferrari is already testing its all-new turbo V6 engine have only gained in strength in the last days and weeks.
Citing video evidence, we reported last month that a LaFerrari supercar had lapped the Maranello marque's private Fiorano circuit amid the distinct tones of a turbo engine.
Germany's Auto Motor und Sport now has more details.
It has published detailed photos that depict the supercar, with a camouflaged livery, also featuring a "suspiciously large" air intake on the roof.
The car also had a "giant wing" at the rear.
Correspondent Tobias Gruner said it is obvious the car was not powered by its usual V12 engine, but a "small-volume turbo engine".
And on the livery was a triangular, yellow warning sticker, indicating that complex electric technology lurked beneath -- perhaps the sort of sophisticated energy-recovery systems that will power the team's 2014 F1 car?
"Ferrari will not publicly comment on the test," Gruner said, adding that it is also possible Ferrari was testing in preparation for a potential Le Mans project.
But the heavily-modified LaFerrari also featured a F1 2014-style, single and central exhaust outlet at the rear, while the car "sounded suspiciously like" the audio clips that have been released depicting this year's turbo V6s in development.

Sources:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11401106852 ... w---report

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... how_item=2

[Hail22]

Hmmm no heat from the quad tip exhausts...look at the center of the car...there is burn / heat marks from a central exhaust / tube outlet:



But then again, LDM did hint he was interested in LMP1 in the WEC championship, so its still all smoke and mirrors to me.

[Holm86]

Hmmm no heat from the quad tip exhausts...look at the center of the car...there is burn / heat marks from a central exhaust / tube outlet:

http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uplo ... ans-F1.jpg

But then again, LDM did hint he was interested in LMP1 in the WEC championship, so its still all smoke and mirrors to me.

The quad exhaust is just a "decoy".

[bonjon1979]

There's a substantial gap around the front wheel, are they smaller than standard laferrari wheels. If they are running f1 parts under that shell it is a breach of the rules, surely?

[Thunder]

The wheels seem a little small, but i don't think thats indicating anything. I think it was an LMP Test, since everything else would be illigal. And we dont want to say that Ferrari isn't Operating 100 % within the Rules don't we?

Thats from AMuS:

[Holm86]

The wheels seem a little small, but i don't think thats indicating anything. I think it was an LMP Test, since everything else would be illigal. And we dont want to say that Ferrari isn't Operating 100 % within the Rules don't we?

Thats from AMuS: http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fer ... 745430.jpg

Chassis does'nt comply with LMP regulations.

[Cuky]

I think it was an LMP Test, since everything else would be illigal.

But why is that? Rules clearly state that you can't test current car and one before, as well as any car that condones to regulations. Why would testing F1 V6 engine together with ERS system be illegal if tested in (modified) road car? They could say that they are looking into using that power unit in other racing series. And no one could do anything against it

[jaba.hut]

Also this power unit is not used anywhere at the moment. So where it says you are not allowed to test something that is not used in F1 atm. Also this would mean no testing on test bed. Difference is that on test bed you simulate stress and here you have it in real car.

[Thunder]

AMuS wrote somewhere that the Engine Manufacturers are only allowed to Test their engines on stationary Rigs, not in actual test Cars.

If that is wrong I apologize.

@Holm: Right but the Engine Specs of F1 and LMP1 are not so far away, so a 2014 F1 Engine can be modified to fit the LMP1 rules. I was only talking about the Engine, not an actual LMP1 Car Test.

[Holm86]

AMuS wrote somewhere that the Engine Manufacturers are only allowed to Test their engines on stationary Rigs, not in actual test Cars.

If that is wrong I apologize.

@Holm: Right but the Engine Specs of F1 and LMP1 are not so far away, so a 2014 F1 Engine can be modified to fit the LMP1 rules. I was only talking about the Engine, not an actual LMP1 Car Test.

I don't think there is any regulation prohibiting them from testing the F1 engine in another car. It would just be to easy to say that its either a test engine for a new roadcar or another race series.

[skoop]

in this article AMuS states that merc are already testing the new engine aswell. they do it in 'half a car'. so i'm pretty sure there is no rule against engine testing with a road car.

you can read the full story here: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 66855.html