2014 Testing - Jerez 28-31 Jan

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I imagine every connection is tested in the garage? Every bolt double checked? Then they do an installation lap and check again to see nothing slipped.

So if Hamilton's failure us due to a connection failure they'll wonder why it wasn't detected in the garage. If it was a manufacture/design defect then I agree it should have been picked up in the factory.

My point was that the teams will be ultra cautious because it's the final safety net. Better to be slow and double check if if avoids trashing the car.

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Maybe off topic, but all teams have bombed the fia because of lotus nose, what is possible and what not.


Why did lotus showed the nose now, they should havs kept it secret

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Diesel wrote: No he's saying Lewis was possibly pushing too hard. It's possible they could have picked up fatigue on the component during one of the stops, but Lewis may have been pushing so hard that lap that it failed suddenly without warning.
I would understand that if the problem was the engine or the gearbox, but a problem with the front wing? It has nothing to do with pushing hard, it is a problem with the front wing that fell off

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Diesel wrote:
kooleracer wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:The first day of testing is often just a series of installation laps.

They'll have a list of start up protocols as long as your arm before they attempt to set timed laps. Those protocols will have been developed in the factory. I suspect they'll be working on a fail safe basis, if there are any doubts they'll take a step back, reassemble then retest.

As Hamilton showed, rushing the installation can cause bigger delays. Merc are now back to the beginning and probably behind the teams who didn't rush.
I find it quite "remarkable" how you link a front wing failure and doing installation laps together? Please explain how can you rush a front-wing on a car. The FW failed according to sources on track, you are suggesting that it wasn't attached accordingly because the mechanics rushed to car out of the garage? I find that really hard to believe.
No he's saying Lewis was possibly pushing too hard. It's possible they could have picked up fatigue on the component during one of the stops, but Lewis may have been pushing so hard that lap that it failed suddenly without warning.
Are you kidding me, have you seen the lap times? He wasn't going near to flat out on track. If the FW fails in a 17 lap run then it never could be Lewis's fault. No matter how hard he was trying. He didn't have a excursion so the blame a broken FW on Lewis because you think he was pushing ( which he wasnt) is total rubbish. But that's my opinion.
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Diesel wrote:No he's saying Lewis was possibly pushing too hard. It's possible they could have picked up fatigue on the component during one of the stops, but Lewis may have been pushing so hard that lap that it failed suddenly without warning.
Do people just type randomly on their keyboard these days or does this above actually make any sense?
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SectorOne wrote:
Diesel wrote:No he's saying Lewis was possibly pushing too hard. It's possible they could have picked up fatigue on the component during one of the stops, but Lewis may have been pushing so hard that lap that it failed suddenly without warning.
Do people just type randomly on their keyboard these days or does this above actually make any sense?
I don't know, is the guy suggesting that in the races they will just cruise around and never push hard to avoid structural failures :P

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richard_leeds wrote:I imagine every connection is tested in the garage? Every bolt double checked? Then they do an installation lap and check again to see nothing slipped.
It sounds like the most logical explanation if the front wing failed. That someone perhaps did not tighten it up 100%.
They have machines that test everything in the factory and probably run them 24/7.

Also remember Mclaren forgetting they had left the sidepod coolers on Button´s Mclaren in Monaco for the race.
--- happens basically.
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richard_leeds wrote:As Hamilton showed, rushing the installation can cause bigger delays. Merc are now back to the beginning and probably behind the teams who didn't rush.
Where did Mercedes rush? There was a programme and they stuck to it. No point sitting in the garage if they can get track time.
A failure such as the one we have witnessed will happen at any point of the 17 laps they have thus far managed.
Better to know sooner that the front wing pylons or bond process need strengthening than later.
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interesting that the nosecone is completely black all of a sudden. how about that?
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This just in....

If you drive too fast, your front wing falls off, and the armchair engineers blame the driver.

More "news" at 11:00.

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It looks like the color pealed off, but I can not imagine how. Or can it been covered with carbon dust from the crash structure?
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Manoah2u wrote:
interesting that the nosecone is completely black all of a sudden. how about that?
Vanity panel fell off.

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Are Lotus the only ones NOT at this test?

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ecapox wrote:Are Lotus the only ones NOT at this test?
Yes, Marussia is on the way...
all other team are at Jerez. :wink: