Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[Thunder]

http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Mer ... 754482.jpg

I really hope that´s the cold weather and hot weather package they are running and not something they were forced to do just to create more cooling.

Coke bottle is quite incredible as well.

According to AMuS the Top Picture is "spec 1" for Cool Tempreatures, below is "spec 3" for hot Temperatures. Mercedes intended to run Spec 1 in Jerez but were forced to use Spec 3. So there is a bit of Work on the cooling ahead, but that should be manageable.

[turbof1]

Given they brought Spec 3 along I think they more or less were expecting this. Spec 3 still doesn't look bigger then most of the competition. Toro Rosso started with a huge opening at the back for instance. Mclaren has similar openings in terms of volume as mercedes.

[Thunder]

Well it was the First Test in Years with no Burn Marks on the Merc so everything should be on the safe Side.

[beelsebob]

http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Mer ... 754482.jpg

I really hope that´s the cold weather and hot weather package they are running and not something they were forced to do just to create more cooling.

Given their earlier comments about the amount of power you get from the engine varying by cooling, it could also be the Monaco spec vs the Brazil spec.

[kooleracer]

http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Mer ... 754482.jpg

different versions of paneling , found on Automotorundsport.de

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Mer ... 754483.jpg

monkey seat monkey do

On the last day Nico run without the cooling vents near the drivers head. Its all about collecting data and finding the optimum cooling and aero solution. But like last year Mercedes brings bodywork jigsaws to the test and later the solve the jigsaw and made a 1 part solution. The rear of the car is not finished yet because the cooling parameters weren't in yet. So they didn't know how tight they could make the package and you don't want to go too extreme like Red Bull. I could also be they were testing a cold and hot weather cooling solutions. The Bahrain test will more clarity on the packaging of the rear of the car. Lets hope that the final solution is the picture on top.

Concerning cooling they always were extremer then Red Bull. Remember, Redbull has 2 big cooling outlets coming out of the coke bottle; the mercedes ones which are placed more in line of the sidepods are much smaller.

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.

[dans79]

I think they where just testing aero components and that's it. I don't expect to see a really finalized car till FP1 in AUS.

[turbof1]

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja212.jpg

No, I don't mean the ones quickly carved up in the sidepods, I mean those on the floor right behind the shrouded driveshaft:


You should also take a look at this:


And also note that Mercedes has an exposed shark fin, while Red Bull has not. Because the shark fin is only there to meet regulatory bodywork requirements, it means that Mercedes has a much better packaging in height at the coke bottle.

Agreed that with the bigger cooling outlets the mercedes gets a bit bulkier in width then red bull, but overall their rear is still slimmer.

[kooleracer]

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja212.jpg

No, I don't mean the ones quickly carved up in the sidepods, I mean those on the floor right behind the shrouded driveshaft:
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja124.jpg

I find that quite a neat solution like McLaren did. The W05 cooling vents are right more to the front. I don't no if that is a positive or negative thing. But the Red Bull and McLaren solution looks more streamlined and doesn't interfere with the coke bottle shape. I would not be surprised if Mercedes would pursuit the same solution, because now they have dirty air form the cooling interfering with the clean form the front of the car.

[turbof1]

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja212.jpg

No, I don't mean the ones quickly carved up in the sidepods, I mean those on the floor right behind the shrouded driveshaft:
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja124.jpg

I find that quite a neat solution like McLaren did. The W05 cooling vents are right more to the front. I don't if that is a positive or negative thing. But the Red Bull and McLaren solution looks more streamlined and doesn't interfere with the coke bottle shape. I would not be surprised if Mercedes would pursuit the same solution.

I edited my previous post with more remarks on some aspects of the cars. Should check that out.

This is actually a better picture for comparison.

[Blackout]

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja212.jpg

No, I don't mean the ones quickly carved up in the sidepods, I mean those on the floor right behind the shrouded driveshaft:
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja124.jpg

You should also take a look at this:
http://imageshack.com/a/img707/8297/s5lj.jpg

And also note that Mercedes has an exposed shark fin, while Red Bull has not. Because the shark fin is only there to meet regulatory bodywork requirements, it means that Mercedes has a much better packaging in height at the coke bottle.

Only/mainly because the RB10's exhasut exist/pipe is much higher thatn the Merc one.

[Blackout]

[turbof1]

Wasn't that the emergency solution, the cure the cooling problems. Thats not the final solution.

Without the 2 holes in the sidepod, the RB9 cooling can be called extreme. More extreme then the Mercedes or Ferrari.
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja212.jpg

No, I don't mean the ones quickly carved up in the sidepods, I mean those on the floor right behind the shrouded driveshaft:
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/ ... 1ja124.jpg

You should also take a look at this:
http://imageshack.com/a/img707/8297/s5lj.jpg

And also note that Mercedes has an exposed shark fin, while Red Bull has not. Because the shark fin is only there to meet regulatory bodywork requirements, it means that Mercedes has a much better packaging in height at the coke bottle.

Only/mainly because the RB10's exhasut exist/pipe is much higher thatn the Merc one.

I don't think so. Red Bull has put a third cooling outlet around the exhaust. The exhaust itself is around the same height.

I think it's more about the engine. Mercedes and Williams are actually the only ones who have the shark fin exposed. It suggest that the mercedes engine allows around the rear a much better packaging then the other engines.

Your picture shows the exhaust itself is only slightly higher. Not enough to explain the volume difference. In sideview you'll noticed that from the airbox at the roll hoop the bodywork slopes down much earlier then at red bull's.

[henra]

I really hope that´s the cold weather and hot weather package they are running and not something they were forced to do just to create more cooling.

If I'm not completely mistaken the tight one was only on at the beginning of the tests. Once the wider one was installed I didn't see it removed/exchanged back for the tighter one any more.
Might have just escaped me though.
Might also be to confuse the competitors. If they have it on for the whole Bahrain test, this would be somewhat of an idndication. So far it is probably not.

[henra]

This is actually a better picture for comparison.
http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.02.14/wteyhhr1t6jk.jpg

Interesting comparison!
Merc looks actually very good, given the new rules and its consequences, RB quite similar (almost identical philosophy and pretty similar implementation of the rear end - the question is just: will it stay this way?) and also the interesting Williams approach.
The Ferrari waist on the other Hand makes me wonder if the airflow will be obedient and follow the coke bottle or will be piqued and refuse to follow, troddling along its own path. Comparing it especially to Merc and RB I wouldn't put my entire Money on it.

[Ferraripilot]

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526

Great comparison shot. W05's diffuser design clearly offers what appears to be more volume in the central area thanks to their interpretation of the starter hole rule. RB10 diffuser features more of a traditional transitional ramp in the center area which as I understand it is a difficult area to get flow working well.