Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[tok-tokkie]

That video is clearly not up to date and it is a different one to the earlier one we saw. Scarbs points out that the compressor has been moved on the Merc car. We also know that the Merc uses a 'log' exhaust header pipe.
But what I find interesting is it again shows the crankshaft with complex offset throws. When this was discussed earlier someone posted part of the regulations stating that the crankshaft can only have 3 throws. I really wonder what the story is behind this. Whoever did the CGI must have based it on something coming from within the organisation - surely? This is much clearer than the previous video. Press spacebar to stop the video.

[Blackout]

Made a (ugly) Paint drawing showing how the Merc layout is IMO
(Black: the intercooler is above the angine / Green: the intercooler is in the sidepod)
Edit: maybe the green one is closer to the real layout. The upper cooler might just be a water rad for the air-water intercooler

[timbo]

That video is clearly not up to date and it is a different one to the earlier one we saw. Scarbs points out that the compressor has been moved on the Merc car. We also know that the Merc uses a 'log' exhaust header pipe.
But what I find interesting is it again shows the crankshaft with complex offset throws. When this was discussed earlier someone posted part of the regulations stating that the crankshaft can only have 3 throws. I really wonder what the story is behind this. Whoever did the CGI must have based it on something coming from within the organisation - surely? This is much clearer than the previous video. Press spacebar to stop the video.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/1326 ... 181d_o.jpg

What would be effect? It would make engine slightly shorter? If it's true than it seems that Merc made a lot of unorthodox moves to get the best packaging possible. It is surprising that they managed to extract so much performance out of an engine. I wonder if log exhast costs some hps -- so maybe their strength is in that they made compromises on the ICE side but made things easier for ERS systems?

[Owen.C93]

Made a (ugly) Paint drawing showing how the Merc layout is IMO
(Black: the intercooler is above the angine / Green: the intercooler is in the sidepod)
Edit: maybe the green one is closer to the real layout. The upper cooler might just be a water rad for the air-water intercooler
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526

I think they expand the airbox for the air filter.

[David1976]

Made a (ugly) Paint drawing showing how the Merc layout is IMO
(Black: the intercooler is above the angine / Green: the intercooler is in the sidepod)
Edit: maybe the green one is closer to the real layout. The upper cooler might just be a water rad for the air-water intercooler
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526

It is indeed a great solution. The advantage is not only in having the high pressure air adjacent to where you want the components that need the most cooling, but in theory all the heated components are located together which could benefit aero when the hot air is exited?

[De Jokke]

Does any else think that Hamilton and vettel suffered the same kind of issue?

They both lost a cylinder and it happened on the formation lap. So I think the restart somehow messed up something in the engine data/electrical system.

[dans79]

Does any else think that Hamilton and vettel suffered the same kind of issue?

They both lost a cylinder and it happened on the formation lap. So I think the restart somehow messed up something in the engine data/electrical system.

Vettel had a kers issue I believe!

[el-Magico]

Does any else think that Hamilton and vettel suffered the same kind of issue?

They both lost a cylinder and it happened on the formation lap. So I think the restart somehow messed up something in the engine data/electrical system.

If I am correct, Hamilton's problem already started before the race.. and Mercedes hoped that it would cure it self.

[De Jokke]

It was KERS + cylinder loss: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 2--f1.html

Hamilton's problem was noticed during the formation lap(s), no?

[SiLo]

I can imagine Hamilton's formation lap was fun.

"Uhhhh... Lewis... Your car is broken"
"Great, can we fix it?"
"We're hoping it might just fix itself"
"..."

[Owen.C93]

Actually they didn't tell him.

[SiLo]

Seems a bit counter intuitive?

[Sevach]

Actually they didn't tell him.

Wouldn't it be better if they pulled him before the race start and looked at his engine?
Even if it meant dropping from pole to starting from the pitlane, seems like a wiser choice to me.

Anyways...

[Powershift]

Made a (ugly) Paint drawing showing how the Merc layout is IMO
(Black: the intercooler is above the angine / Green: the intercooler is in the sidepod)
Edit: maybe the green one is closer to the real layout. The upper cooler might just be a water rad for the air-water intercooler
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526

The "ram air" from the air box inlet, to me, would be more useful for cooling(specifically the intercooler) than for turbo inlet air, and then after it can be directed towards the "hot side" of the turbo, TERS-MGU, and gearbox rad all in line.

Do we have any idea if they are running an air to air or air to water intercooler?

[PhillipM]

Actually they didn't tell him.

Wouldn't it be better if they pulled him before the race start and looked at his engine?
Even if it meant dropping from pole to starting from the pitlane, seems like a wiser choice to me.

Anyways...

No, because it would never be fixed in time.