2014 Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring

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Kiril Varbanov
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Skid blocks allowing lower ride height would completely scrap the previously tightened rules for plank wear and manufacturer tolerance. So, it's just a spark show, which adds more frustration to the already artificial show.

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dren
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I wonder if Williams will be able to pull it together and put a car on the podium. It is looking like they once again have a capable car here. Hamilton had power issues again; I hope Mercedes doesn't have similar Canada problems.
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thedutchguy wrote:
astracrazy wrote:your making it sound way more exaggerated than it is. All it will be is a block at the end of the plank so when the plank touches the ground so does the block to create sparks. your making it sound like the block will stop the plank touching the ground so the teams will have this right to go mega low on there ride height - but that would totally contradict the reason the plank is there in the first place.
Let's assume the plank and the skit block(s) are at the same hight. I think everybody wil agree that titanium will wear less than wood when scraping over tarmac. So both will wear equally fast, but at a much slower speed than just a wooden plank. So it will allow teams to let the cars bottom out more.
If the block will be positioned as such so the cars can bottom out freely then why continue with the plank

and any case, why would the teams 'want' to bottom out more.......

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Harsha wrote:
Juzh wrote:Red bulls look in trouble. Ferrari probably running light.
Yes i hoped the new updates will pull them closer from engine side but 1.2 sec gap is not what we hoped to see
Now we can safely say that the season is over for all non- Merc Teams.
Hopefully Ferrari and Renault are capable of a Revolution over the winter. Otherwise it's looking like we will see only 6-8 cars running in F1 in the not so distant future. Or FIA force Merc to supply the whole grid with engines. But that obviously wouldn't save Ferrari.
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Double post.
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Getting back to the topic here (the race weekend) did anyone else notice from the inboard video of Vettel's spin how he released the brakes when the car was pointing away from the wall (going forwards and going backwards!). Just briefly each time but presumably it's a way of trying to stop the car hitting the wall. Very cool head if that is the case.
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dren wrote:I wonder if Williams will be able to pull it together and put a car on the podium. It is looking like they once again have a capable car here. Hamilton had power issues again; I hope Mercedes doesn't have similar Canada problems.
Hamilton had power issues again? I can't find anything, nothing shown on TV. When did this happen?

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J0rd4n wrote:
dren wrote:I wonder if Williams will be able to pull it together and put a car on the podium. It is looking like they once again have a capable car here. Hamilton had power issues again; I hope Mercedes doesn't have similar Canada problems.
Hamilton had power issues again? I can't find anything, nothing shown on TV. When did this happen?
He said over the radio it felt like a loss of power but that happened in the race after the SC restart in Bahrain and all was ok. Apparently he stopped early in the session because of an ERS issue different to Nico's in the morning (autosport tweeted that). So maybe something to it. Watched his long runs onboard and there did seem to be a visual and audio lack of speed just before he radioed, by that I mean something didn't seem quite right, but times were still ultra competitive. He looked dialled in too.

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Any footage of these sparks or was it a failure?

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Vettel Maggot wrote:Any footage of these sparks or was it a failure?
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Did it rain last night on the track, anyone know. Could be a very tricky day If the rubber has all been washed away.
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SilverArrow10 wrote:Did it rain last night on the track, anyone know. Could be a very tricky day If the rubber has all been washed away.
No one has mentioned something about overnight rain on Twitter as far as I know...

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Just_a_fan wrote:did anyone else notice from the inboard video of Vettel's spin how he released the brakes when the car was pointing away from the wall (going forwards and going backwards!). Just briefly each time but presumably it's a way of trying to stop the car hitting the wall. Very cool head if that is the case.
Looked like it yes. But I'm not sure it works? Since braking when going sideways has very little effect?

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Button out of FP3.

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Skid blocks allowing lower ride height would completely scrap the previously tightened rules for plank wear and manufacturer tolerance. So, it's just a spark show, which adds more frustration to the already artificial show.

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Oh not again with "artificial" everything including overtaking. Even with DRS they can't still overtake. Sometimes it's too easy (every driver can overtake), sometimes it's impossible (ask Hamilton behind Hulkenberg 2013 somewhere), sometimes it helps with race win battles (Maldonado+Alonso Barcelona 2012 vs Raikkonen), usually it still takes a lot of skills to overtake and is still skills differentiator between drivers.

F1 is from top to bottom artificial joke starting with couple of big teams owning and setting technical and other rules by themselves and getting bulk of prize and other money for nothing. BTW When was this "pure" F1? With launch control, traction control (the horror - the car was doing everything not the driver, how artificial, all Schumacher wins were bleh), ride-height adjustments, silly grooved tyres that needed to be abused to work and fuel differences in qualifying - no one knew exactly who was faster except for some flawed fuel corrected nonsense. If you want the best example of artificial - look no further but 2014 engine rules - the whole championship and every race was decided before it began in favour of three team and in reality one.

I'm too lazy to find thread/posts about it so I'll throw it here. AMus claims Ros-Ham did something different around pitstops in Canada: braking technique and short-lived change of brake bias. I always thought Wolff tried little too hard to convince everyone it was exactly the same plus luck. http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 16536.html BTW if anyone loves "old-school" Austria track - they should put them on egg shape ones or ovals - classic factor bigger 100 times. India was also a nice, fast track.