Would a covered cockpit have helped Bianchi ?

[siskue2005]

What makes F1 "Formula 1" - and my favorite sport - has zero to do with the cockpit being open.

It's about being the fastest and most progressive car, being driven by the best.

A roll cage with a canopy alters my enjoyment of the sport 0%. The basis of the "it's not F1 if the driver's head isn't stuck out in the air" is completely absurd to me.

[Manoah2u]

This is NOT a Formula One Car
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this.

neither is this.

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[mrluke]

This is NOT a Formula One Car

Correct.

[Jeffsvilleusa]

This is NOT a Formula One Car

It's Can Am right?

[GitanesBlondes]

To answer the original post: no it would have made no difference.

To everyone else, just remember, if closed cockpits become a reality, don't be shocked when you see guys engaging in further reckless behavior as they will believe absolutely nothing can hurt them any longer on track.

By that logic, we should have kept safety regulations like they were when Sir Jackie crashed at Spa and sat in a car with fuel leaking all around him for quite some time before another driver stopped to help him out.

Cause, if you know there was no medical team to help you in case of a crash, you wouldn't engage in reckless behavior, right?

Nice false equivalence argument.

Let me know when aquaplaning at 170MPH has something to do with dangerous driving as I mentioned.

[noel]

canopy. m-hm. good idea.

webber:


kvyat:


i laughed my arse off when mark nonchalantly started kicking the damned thing.

[siskue2005]

canopy. m-hm. good idea.

webber:
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/7 ... onfire.png

kvyat:
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i laughed my arse off when mark nonchalantly started kicking the damned thing.

http://content.worldcarfans.co/2013/10/ ... 299997.jpg

That is indeed a safety issue
But I want to ask you guys, how do they manage fire in LMP1 closed cockpit cars?

[Andres125sx]

Several options for closed cockpits on this thread, but sincerely, looks like most design didn´t consider if the car crash upside down...

LMP1 cars did, that´s the reason they have lateral doors, cockpits opening upwards simply can´t be used or drivers would get traped with the car upside down, as explosive canopies jets like, those are good solutions for planes, f1 boats, etc. but no for cars

[turbof1]

Can they try to shatter the glass canopy through some sort of electric current (have to make sure there's no interference from the electric junk)? Could solve the upside down issue.

[ScottB]

Can they try to shatter the glass canopy through some sort of electric current (have to make sure there's no interference from the electric junk)? Could solve the upside down issue.

Only if you could guarantee such a system wouldn't be damaged by a crash, or as we've seen a few times this season already, cars suffering total electrical failures.

[turbof1]

Can they try to shatter the glass canopy through some sort of electric current (have to make sure there's no interference from the electric junk)? Could solve the upside down issue.

Only if you could guarantee such a system wouldn't be damaged by a crash, or as we've seen a few times this season already, cars suffering total electrical failures.

I guess quite a lot of development is needed still. However, the benefits and potentional are there.

[ScottB]

Can they try to shatter the glass canopy through some sort of electric current (have to make sure there's no interference from the electric junk)? Could solve the upside down issue.

Only if you could guarantee such a system wouldn't be damaged by a crash, or as we've seen a few times this season already, cars suffering total electrical failures.

I guess quite a lot of development is needed still. However, the benefits and potentional are there.

It's always going to be a case of balancing risk.

At the moment, cars are easy to get out of if they break down / crash / catch fire. But the downside is drivers can get hit in the head. Canopies would negate the head injury risk somewhat, but if they became damaged, drivers could get trapped inside.

I doubt there's a single solution, or at least without having to radically alter the concept of an F1 car anyway.

[flyboy2160]

Please stop the usual F1T tactic of turning every thread into a topic about everything. This is a discussion about closed cockpits, not about what JB or the FIA did wrong. The point about a closed cockpit being irrelevant to JB's type of injury has already been made several times.

[Mattchu]

I certainly wouldn`t like to see closed cockpits and i don`t for one minute think that they will be used any time in the near future. Hopefully a better solution can be found so an incident such as this never happens again...
As for the initial question "would a covered cockpit have helped Bianchi?" that is obviously subjective and a definitive answer is impossible to give!

[siskue2005]

Please stop the usual F1T tactic of turning every thread into a topic about everything. This is a discussion about closed cockpits, not about what JB or the FIA did wrong. The point about a closed cockpit being irrelevant to JB's type of injury has already been made several times.

thank you.

can anyone answer my question?

canopy. m-hm. good idea.

webber:
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/7 ... onfire.png

kvyat:
http://33.media.tumblr.com/c290a5303ded ... r2_500.png

i laughed my arse off when mark nonchalantly started kicking the damned thing.

http://content.worldcarfans.co/2013/10/ ... 299997.jpg

That is indeed a safety issue
But I want to ask you guys, how do they manage fire in LMP1 closed cockpit cars?