McLaren MP4-29 Mercedes

[wesley123]

(there's also a mention that the MP4-30 is already better regarding aero than the 2014 car.)

Would be weird if it wasn't

[Thunder]

Austin 2014, Wednesday
Picture by AMuS

Looks like the new Front Wing with the Bump in the Y250 Area, but the Metal Part is painted now.
Also is that a Pelican Bump or whatever it's called behind the Nose Tip? Did they have that before?

[Forza]

https://twitter.com/janci1612/status/527966629527691264 AMuS - R17.US Grand Prix - 30/10/2014

[Thunder]

So my eyes still work, that's good to know.

Good to see them pushing the developments until the End. And nice to finally see some Orange on a McLaren again.

[Gerhardsa]

So my eyes still work, that's good to know.

Good to see them pushing the developments until the End. And nice to finally see some Orange on a McLaren again.

Looks yellow to me(the SAP logo)

[Thunder]

I guess that's a bit Monitor and lighting specific. On their Homepage it looks Orange to me.
http://www.sap.com/germany/index.html

[adrianjordan]

What is the advantage of the pelican nose over the design they had previously?

[turbof1]

What is the advantage of the pelican nose over the design they had previously?

It creates in conjunction with the neutral section of the mainplane a venturi tunnel, dropping pressure and improving front downforce and air extraction, sucking in more air volume that'll move to the rear.

[CjC]

So it's an increase in overall downforce? Improving front and rear?
Hopefully it'll improve the front more as the drivers are always asking for more front end and being told they are maxed out.

[Harsha]

Is the new front wing done Pete Prod or is this designed earlier ??

[mikeerfol]

I believe the new front wing (designed by Prodromou) will make it's debut at Abu Dhabi.

[dren]

What is the advantage of the pelican nose over the design they had previously?

It creates in conjunction with the neutral section of the mainplane a venturi tunnel, dropping pressure and improving front downforce and air extraction, sucking in more air volume that'll move to the rear.

A venturi? Look straight on, the nose is directly in front of the part behind it. To me it looks more like flow management to the under nose flow conditioners. I'm guessing they had issues with the flow joining again behind the protrusion.

[CjC]

I believe the new front wing (designed by Prodromou) will make it's debut at Abu Dhabi.

Looking forward to that!!

[turbof1]

What is the advantage of the pelican nose over the design they had previously?

It creates in conjunction with the neutral section of the mainplane a venturi tunnel, dropping pressure and improving front downforce and air extraction, sucking in more air volume that'll move to the rear.

A venturi? Look straight on, the nose is directly in front of the part behind it. To me it looks more like flow management to the under nose flow conditioners. I'm guessing they had issues with the flow joining again behind the protrusion.

Yes it'll unfortunaly block the airflow a bit. Though the nose is shaped in a such a way it'll try to keep airflow attached and draw it directly behind it.

However, the solution is no different in concept from the pelican noses we saw last year at red bull and lotus. It creates a venturi tunnel just as last year, just a bit less effective due bodywork being in front of it.

The bulge also aids in airflow attachment as you said. Without the bulge a thick boundary layer would probably build up behind the nose. But again: one advantage will not exclude the other and will still create a venturi tunnel.

[Harsha]

I believe the new front wing (designed by Prodromou) will make it's debut at Abu Dhabi.

Really looking forward to that and also he can guide Mp4-30 design atleast for first big upgrade