X faces the axe

[rjsa]

Putting aside what may or may not have been said, I find it incredibly sad that, after the tragic events in France, so many people are willing to applaud the public assassination of a member because he said something that offended somebody.

May be you are twisting it backwards?

It was X, that after giving up discussing- or even arguing - some subject, resorted to direct personal aggression in the form of one's mother honor smearing. Or so it seems.

[autogyro]

Be careful or I will taunt you a second time.
Your Mother was a hampster and your Father smelt of elderberries.

[Blanchimont]

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[MOWOG]

aggression in the form of one's mother honor smearing.

Well, aren't all the people here so high and mighty? Like YOU have never been guilty of such a thing? Really? Never in your life have you called someone an SOB, spawn of Satan, product of a sea hag, or related to one who blows dead bears?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, sir.

Such imprecations are so common and so frequent in everyday speech today, school children use them at recess on a regular basis. Calling someone a MF in the US is so common, it is almost a term of endearment.

I have run a similar site to this for a decade + and have had bumps in the road such as this where one member feels aggrieved by another. My advice? Put the offender on your IGNORE list. That's what it's for. That way, you don't have to suffer the slings and arrows coming at you from the ignorant poutan tormenting you and the rest of us can go about our business in peace.

In practice, I have found that the person using the Ignore function CAN'T BEAR TO NOT SEE WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS SAYING ABOUT HIM and overrides the ignore feature. The only solution then is to ban the dumb sod who can't get ignore what he is trying to ignore!

So I propose that if Ciro is SSOOOOOOooooooo sensitive and his feelings are SSOOOOOOoo delicate, that he be banned for his own protection.

What this groups has chosen to do - use a sledge hammer to kill a gnat, imho - seems almost as reprehensible as the actions of the people who slaughtered the staff at the Charlie Hegbo offices because they found some artwork offensive. Yes, the two are worlds apart. But are they, really?

What sort of message does it send when we cannot deal like mature adults with someone who is an outlier? What sort of planet are we on when our primary response to an irritating person is to rub him out the way the Mafia likes to do to people who oppose it?

Dealing with adversity like adults makes us stronger. Going nuclear on someone who offends us sends the wrong message to the rest of society. As Rodney King would say, "Can't we all just get along?"

Sadly, the way this has been handled seems puerile to me. I shall have to consider whether a site that comports itself in such a fashion continues to deserve my attention.

[Richard]

MOWOG, it's healthy for members to have this conversation and I'd normally stay out of it. However I do have to correct the idea that this was due to one word. We wouldn't be that pathetic.

Bans are due to repeated cycles of mod interventions, several temp bans and ongoing dialogue. Our hard limits are personal abuse or aggression towards other members, especially repeated aggression via PMs amounting to vendettas.

It's saying enough is enough after multiple cycles. It's the realisation that if someone is repeatedly saying that they don't like this place then perhaps we'd better call it a day and move on.

[rjsa]

aggression in the form of one's mother honor smearing.

Well, aren't all the people here so high and mighty? Like YOU have never been guilty of such a thing? Really? Never in your life have you called someone an SOB, spawn of Satan, product of a sea hag, or related to one who blows dead bears?

Oh I have, tons of times, on the street, in the school, in night clubs and bars. usually associated with a real desire to punch on the face and the disposition to act on such desire. As more than once I have done. And being kicked out of places and being taken to the principal's office

But I never, even while T.U.I., resorted to name calling in written form, be it in public or privately. And that's what this is about. X did that more than once, got taken to the principals office and expelled.

[dans79]

That way, you don't have to suffer the slings and arrows coming at you from the ignorant poutan tormenting you and the rest of us can go about our business in peace.

Yes yes, they way to deal with an aggressor is to turn the other cheek, and hope the bad man goes away. History has shown that ignoring an aggressor unusually doesn't work.

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[rjsa]

Ohh, and this is not a democracy. It has an owner and his proxies, the moderators. Their word is rule. And everyone is here by the owner's permission and free to leave anytime.

[dans79]

Comparing xpensive's actions to Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich is pathetic.

Maybe you should go back & read what I wrote a little more deeply. It's an example of what can happen when bad behavior goes un-checked, not a metaphor. Hopefully you understand the difference.

[turbof1]

Dans79, I think we are going too far when we involve disasters like Hitler. Same goes for the instances when someone else mentioned Charlie Hegbo. We had to let a member go, not solve an act of terrorism or prevent a World War. I do get your point, but we aren't doing anyone favours involving Hitler.

GitanesBlondes: Do you know what the second law of Godwin is? Right, you got it there.

Maybe the time is right to close this topic and the other one. This topic had a good purpose of ventilating thoughts on the matter, but we are going too much into extremes. The other topic had a vague promise of making a point which never was made.

Topic closed to stop further bickering.